in progress question about moving group/forum threads

I have the JR tools to move a Forum discussion into a Group. Would doing that automatically make all the thread posters of that moved forum thread Members of the Group then, without them having to actually join the group on their own? Would they then show up among the group members list simply by moving the discussion there?

And the same question for if I move a discussion from one Group to another- do all the people who posted in that discussion then become members (join) the Group that now contains the discussion? And do they get "un-joined' from the original Group that housed the discussion? (assuming they had no other posts in other group threads there)


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Migrated from Ning to Jamroom June 2015
updated by @strumelia: 04/19/19 06:32:43PM

Haven't tested it, but by our normal logic I would say 'No'. On the grounds that the group may be private and the forum thread may have been put in the wrong place.

If the requested action is "move this from forums to groups" that would be the extent of the action I would expect to be taken.

I would expect that the follows to the forum post WOULD NOT follow over to the group. Following a forum thread is following a forum thread. If the thread ceases to be a forum thread then you're not following it anymore.


moving it should just move the discussion and have no effect on member-joined-ship

Thanks for the logic thoughts Michael.
I'm thinking of consolidating two Group with over a dozen discussions each, so I'd have to move the threads. I'll need to think about this. Thanks!


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Migrated from Ning to Jamroom June 2015

Actually, when moving group discussions, commenters are made (pending) members of the target group. It advises that this will happen in the tool view (see screenshot). However, they do then remain members of the source group regardless of whether they have posted in any other source group discussion or not.

Similarly, group memberships are created when transfering a forum topic, but for some reason, the notification in that tool view doesn't exsist!!
hth


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist

Thanks Paul, very good to know before I 'experiment' on things. I was a little unsure particularly about the forum-to-group. :D
I remember asking for some of these tools a couple years ago, and you guys came through. There's forum/forum-category switch, group-to-other group, forum-to-group, and group-to-forum moving tools. The tools from forum-to-group and vice versa are not found in the same expected locations, and sometimes I have to search for the tool again...but I imagine that's because group discussions are not really 'threads' but rather are items with comments on them. I can certainly live with the thread-moving tools being found in different places.

I find all those thread-moving tools Jamroom has given us to be HUGELY useful, for example when a forum thread about wood curing was cluelessly created in a group about musicians with disabilities or something.
Thanks so much for these tools!


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I felt I should report some unexpected/undesireable results when I used one of these moving tools recently.

I had 4 Forum categories that had hundreds of disussions each, but each category had a corresponding GROUP covering basically the same subject matter as its Forum counterpart. So, I wanted to DELETE the forum categories after first MOVING all the forum discussions to their respective GROUPS first.
This I did. I worked on one Forum category at a time, transferring the discussions in it to its appropriate Group, using the "Transfer Forum Topic" tool available in the Group Discussions module.
Each time a discussion was transferred, the tool said the discussion 'owner' would be notified of the move, which was perfect.
I moved hundreds of discussions by the time all was said and done, and i was glad for the provided ability to shift-select several dozen discussions at a time to move them in bulk. That meant I was all done in about an hour, which was great!

Then... my moderators started reporting to me that they were receiving dozens to hundreds of notifications of the moves... most for discussions they had not created at all, and apparently some they had not even posted in. Other members reported getting dozens of such notifications as well, several hundred in a couple of cases - most I will never know about.
But when I went to my Mailgun log, I was shocked to see 17,000 emails had gone out within that hour. =8-o Normally we never even hit the free 10,000 limit for a MONTH.
I contacted Mailgun and they seemed to not be upset and did not take action.
I'm sure I must have pissed many members but I'll never hear from them. A couple of them I did but they were quite polite.
Anyway, I never expected this side effect when using that tool. I've only moved the occasional discussion before this, but folks need to be aware if they plan the move hundreds of discussions.
I'm not sure I could track down any 'pattern' for the glitch, as it didn't seem to make lots of sense- for example one moderator got hundreds, yet I only got a couple dozen total. And I have started more discussions than almost anyone during the 9 years of my site.
Maybe you could run a little check on the function of that "transfer forum topic" tool in Group Discussion? It did transfer the discussions nicely... but sent out waaaaay too many notifications that were not just sent to the discussion creators.
Thanks!


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Migrated from Ning to Jamroom June 2015

Sorry that this has happened to you. I will check it out of course and my immediate thoughts are that target group members were being notified upon every new comment creation.
I recommend that no one else uses this tool until I can get to the bottom of it.
Thanks


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist