How to copy n paste text on jamroom ?

Zachary Moonshine
Zachary Moonshine
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9 years ago
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I notice every time i try to paste text in comments or blogs etc in the editor it wont let me i have to use Ctrl V ? How do i paste in plain text to remove style of the text ?
updated by @zachary-moonshine: 10/04/15 11:47:28AM
derrickhand300
@derrickhand300
9 years ago
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Paste it into notepad or some other text editor first-then copy/paste it into the JR editor ( not Word) When working in the html side of the editor you will still need to use keyboard commands ( I think)
updated by @derrickhand300: 08/24/15 06:41:22PM
Strumelia
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9 years ago
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My members are always complaining that the JR text editor gives them the right-click option of Copy/paste...but then when you do it says you have to use keyboard commands instead. It like pulls the chair out from under you just when you go to sit down. Pretty rude! This is on my Wish List. Even after months of trying to retrain MYSELF to use keyboard commands instead, I keep right clicking to copy paste, then get the same ol'.... D'OHHH...I did it AGAIN!!!!


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michael
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9 years ago
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unfortunately its a wishlist that needs to be directed to browser companies :( There are only a few browsers that allow the browser to paste. IE is one of them.

More secure browsers like firefox are blocking you. Not sure about newer versions of IE, haven't used it in years.

The button could be hidden but then you need to KNOW that ctrl+v is "paste" and not everyone knows that, hence the informational message.
Strumelia
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9 years ago
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But I use Firefox and it lets me copy/paste in every textbox and field on the whoooole internet...EXCEPT, it seems, in the JR one. Why is this?


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Zachary Moonshine
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9 years ago
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yeah me too i use chrome and firefox and both let me paste everywhere except jamroom ?
John Bizley
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9 years ago
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Zachary Moonshine:
I notice every time i try to paste text in comments or blogs etc in the editor it wont let me i have to use Ctrl V ? How do i paste in plain text to remove style of the text ?

I am the same as Strumelia and never had a problem copying and pasting in other webpages. But you can do it in Firefox on here by avoiding the right click and keyboard commands. You can use firefox's own browser controls to do it. In the top right is the menu button ( the three horizontal lines ) click on that and options to cut, copy and paste are there. To use it just highlight what you want to copy with your mouse then click the menu button and click on copy or cut, then place your cursor where you want to copy the text to then repeat and choose paste.
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Zachary Moonshine
Zachary Moonshine
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9 years ago
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yeah what i have been doing is using a notepad to paste too first to remove styles and then copy that but its a bit of work simple for me to do since i am the site owner but not all users will be as driven lmao
John Bizley
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9 years ago
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Zachary Moonshine:
yeah what i have been doing is using a notepad to paste too first to remove styles and then copy that but its a bit of work simple for me to do since i am the site owner but not all users will be as driven lmao

Zachary yes I do much the same as I write so much code that I am always copying and pasting using keyboard commands as it's quicker sometimes than using a mouse. I always paste into Notepad or Notepad+ to make sure it's all clean of styles. I also use these to back up code knowing that just about any computer with basic software on can read them now and in the future.
michael
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9 years ago
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Strumelia:
But I use Firefox and it lets me copy/paste in every textbox and field on the whoooole internet...EXCEPT, it seems, in the JR one. Why is this?

A text box is different to an editor. You're talking about right click pasting into TinyMCE right? The same place that has the context menu provided by the editor itself.

If you disable the right click functionality then normal functionality will return.

Can you paste into the editor on this page?
http://www.tinymce.com/
derrickhand300
@derrickhand300
9 years ago
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Maybe this is the answer?
http://www.tinymce.com/wiki.php/Plugin3x:contextmenu

I have also read

"Remove the contextmenu plugin in your tinymce init:

plugins : "autolink,lists,pagebreak,fullscreen,contextmenu","

Will fix it to allow right mouse click pasting
updated by @derrickhand300: 08/26/15 08:37:48AM
Strumelia
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9 years ago
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michael: You're talking about right click pasting into TinyMCE right?

Yes.


michael:
Can you paste into the editor on this page?
http://www.tinymce.com/

No, it won't let me (under the Edit menu)

I can, however, do right click copy/paste here in this thread in the boxes.



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updated by @strumelia: 08/26/15 10:33:17AM
Strumelia
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derrickhand300:
Maybe this is the answer?
http://www.tinymce.com/wiki.php/Plugin3x:contextmenu

I have also read

"Remove the contextmenu plugin in your tinymce init:

plugins : "autolink,lists,pagebreak,fullscreen,contextmenu","

Will fix it to allow right mouse click pasting

Is this the same thing as what Michael is referring to here?:
"If you disable the right click functionality then normal functionality will return."

If that's so, maybe I can try that as a test. Curtis- where do i find my tinymce init?


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derrickhand300
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9 years ago
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Just stuff I searched and read...I have not tried it thought maybe someone might want to try it and report back
The keyboard command is a nuisance but I am almost used to it now :)
I figure that tinymce is going to be located in the jrCore module but also have not looked
I have also read that if the mouse cursor is blinking in the text or editor box you can paste to it using the mouse ( whats happening here)...my understanding of what I have read is if you delete that part or plug in in tinymce then you will get the blinking mouse cursor in the other tinymce editors :)(But "my understanding" is often clouded by my lack of understanding)
updated by @derrickhand300: 08/26/15 11:54:13AM
derrickhand300
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CORRECTION- looks like tinymce is in the jrEmbed module
Strumelia
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Doing a search now for tinymce.init on my whole public_html folder.
It's not in any of those modules or folders so far...

update: there does not seem to be a file of tineymce.init in my public_html JR folder at all.



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updated by @strumelia: 08/26/15 03:12:23PM
michael
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Strumelia:
Is this the same thing as what Michael is referring to here?:
"If you disable the right click functionality then normal functionality will return."

If that's so, maybe I can try that as a test. Curtis- where do i find my tinymce init?

its in form_editor.tpl in the jrCore module.

so change it at:
ACP -> CORE -> TEMPLATES -> form_editor.tpl -> MODIFY

And yes, it is what I was meaning. remove the 'contextmenu'
Strumelia
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Thanks Michael! But...can you say if there's a 'downside' to doing this, if I might ask?


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michael
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You loose all the context stuff.

The biggest one I think most non-technical users would miss would be the "insert/edit image" option. there is a menu that allows you to add padding to images. Without the context menu, your users only option to put some padding around the images becomes editing the html in code view.
Strumelia
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But they'd still be ABLE to insert images into the posts using the image icon button, correct?


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michael
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If there is an image icon button its something you've added, its not there by default on the standard interface because the embed module puts its own there which allows for image upload.

Sure, if the button is there they can use that.

--edit--
Just checked, its not there on your site. You might want to add 'image' to the editor when you are adjusting the form_editor.tpl to allow a way to add linked images.

The docs:
http://www.tinymce.com/wiki.php/Plugin:image

You can see the button on this page: http://www.tinymce.com Its that one that looks like a picture of mountain scenery
updated by @michael: 08/27/15 06:22:39PM
Strumelia
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Ok I will dive into this when i get a chance hopefully tomorrow. I appreciate your clear instructions!
(everything is a 'project' for me and I have to always proceed carefully, but eventually I get there...oy)


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Strumelia
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OK, I tried to do this simply, then tried more complex, nothing seems to make a bit of difference in how my tinymce editer menus or toolbars look or function. :(

Here is my original form_editor.tpl:
{jrCore_module_url module="jrCore" assign="murl"}
tinymce.init({
    body_id: "{$form_editor_id}",
    content_css: "{$jamroom_url}/{$murl}/css/{$murl}/jrCore_tinymce.css?v={$_mods.jrCore.module_version}",
    toolbar_items_size : "small",
    element_format: "html",
    autoresize_bottom_margin: "3",
    keep_styles: false,
    theme: "{$theme}",
    selector: "textarea#{$form_editor_id}",
    relative_urls: false,
    remove_script_host: false,
    convert_fonts_to_spans: true,
    menubar: false,
    statusbar: false,
    paste_as_text: true,
    entity_encoding: "raw",
    height: "100%",
    image_advtab: true,
    plugins: "contextmenu,pagebreak,{if $jrsmiley}jrsmiley,{/if}{if $jrembed}jrembed,media{/if},image,autoresize,{if $table}table,{/if}link,code,fullscreen,textcolor,colorpicker,preview",
    toolbar1: "formatselect | fontselect forecolor {if $strong} bold{/if}{if $em} italic{/if}{if $span} underline{/if} | {if $span || $div} alignleft{/if}{if $span || $div} aligncenter{/if}{if $span || $div} alignright{/if}{if $span || $div} alignjustify |{/if}{if $ul && $li} bullist numlist |{/if}{if $div} outdent indent |{/if} undo redo | link unlink anchor pagebreak{if $table} table{/if} | {if $hr} hr{/if}{if $sub && $sup} | sub sup {/if} | code preview fullscreen{if $jrembed || $jrsmiley} |{/if}{if $jrembed} jrembed{/if}{if $jrsmiley} jrsmiley{/if}",
    contextmenu: "link image | cut copy paste"
});

and here is what I wound up with after a bunch of attempts:
{jrCore_module_url module="jrCore" assign="murl"}
tinymce.init({
    body_id: "{$form_editor_id}",
    content_css: "{$jamroom_url}/{$murl}/css/{$murl}/jrCore_tinymce.css?v={$_mods.jrCore.module_version}",
    toolbar_items_size : "small",
    element_format: "html",
    autoresize_bottom_margin: "3",
    keep_styles: false,
    theme: "{$theme}",
    selector: "textarea#{$form_editor_id}",
    relative_urls: false,
    remove_script_host: false,
    convert_fonts_to_spans: true,
    menubar: false,
    statusbar: false,
    paste_as_text: true,
    entity_encoding: "raw",
    height: "100%",
    image_advtab: true,
    plugins: "pagebreak,{if $jrsmiley}jrsmiley,{/if}{if $jrembed}jrembed,media{/if},image,autoresize,{if $table}table,{/if}link,code,textcolor,colorpicker,preview,spellchecker",
    toolbar1: "formatselect | fontselect forecolor {if $strong} bold{/if}{if $em} italic{/if}{if $span} underline{/if} | {if $span || $div} alignleft{/if}{if $span || $div} aligncenter{/if}{if $span || $div} alignright{/if}{if $span || $div} alignjustify |{/if}{if $ul && $li} bullist numlist |{/if}{if $div} outdent indent |{/if} undo redo | link unlink anchor pagebreak{if $table} table{/if} | {if $hr} hr{/if}{if $sub && $sup} | sub sup {/if} | code preview{if $jrembed || $jrsmiley} |{/if}{if $jrembed} jrembed{/if} {if $jrimage} image{/if} {if $jrsmiley} jrsmiley{/if} | spellchecker",}); 
Note that I experimented with removing all "contextmenu" stuff, tried to remove "fullscreen" plugin, tried to add Image and Spellchecker(for good measure).

reset cache and icons. saved everything.
Before and after of the text editor shows none of those changes at ALL, plus I still get the copy/paste context menu that won't let me: "Your browser doesn't support direct access to the clipboard. Please use the Ctrl+X/C/V keyboard shortcuts instead.":


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Strumelia
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The editor looks the same both before and after the above code changes... huh? It feels like I must be fiddling around in the wrong place? How can I have done so many changes in the code and have it still look exactly the same?
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updated by @strumelia: 08/28/15 11:33:59AM
michael
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9 years ago
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you'll want to get rid of that last , right after
spellchecker",
to:
spellchecker"

Some browsers are really picky, others don't care.

Then run the integrity check, then take a look at the editor in a blog post. Im sure that one is controlled by the location your editing.

Jamroom has lots of over-ride locations, you might be using one of them, but try that first before we go searching.
Strumelia
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9 years ago
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Michael, i got rid of the two commas, and saved again. Did full integrity check.
I'm the only member of my site who can make blogs, so I checked to go edit one of my own blog posts. Alas, the eidtor looks exactly like the other one still, in my prior screenshot taken from a Forum discussion post.

Am trying to get rid of the 'fullscreen' and 'contextmenu', and trying to add the Image (mountain pic icon), and tested adding spellchecker (not expecting much from that though)...overall I'm hoping to enable copy/paste on right-click by removing context_menu.
Thanks for your help- I won't be online much tomorrow Saturday, will be back on sunday.


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michael
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If that's not working, its very likely you are using a skin level over-ride on the jrCore module.

Check your skin for this template:
ACP -> SKINS -> YOUR SKIN -> TEMPLATES -> jrCore_form_editor.tpl

If you have that then your skin is over-riding the way the module works and changing the module template will not have any effect.

Make your changes to the skin level over-ride instead.
Strumelia
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9 years ago
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Oh wow, yes I do have that template in my skin, and yes I can apply the changes and test it!
But....I have to go to bed right NOW, got a big day tomorrow- cannot test this til Sunday! :(
The suspense will be killing me, but I must get to sleep! THANK YOU!
Will check back here with the test on sunday. :D


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Strumelia
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No, did not work for me.
Went to my ACP -> SKINS -> YOUR SKIN -> TEMPLATES -> jrCore_form_editor.tpl

and substituted in code, and tested both with leaving IN this bottom code line:
contextmenu: "link image | cut copy paste"
and also with removing that last line altogether. Did integ checks each time to view results.
So the following is the code I tried for the "plugins" and "toolbar1" parts of the template:
plugins: "pagebreak,{if $jrsmiley}jrsmiley,{/if}{if $jrembed}jrembed,media{/if},image,autoresize,{if $table}table,{/if}link,code,textcolor,colorpicker,preview,spellchecker"
    toolbar1: "formatselect | fontselect forecolor {if $strong} bold{/if}{if $em} italic{/if}{if $span} underline{/if} | {if $span || $div} alignleft{/if}{if $span || $div} aligncenter{/if}{if $span || $div} alignright{/if}{if $span || $div} alignjustify |{/if}{if $ul && $li} bullist numlist |{/if}{if $div} outdent indent |{/if} undo redo | link unlink anchor pagebreak{if $table} table{/if} | {if $hr} hr{/if}{if $sub && $sup} | sub sup {/if} | code preview{if $jrembed || $jrsmiley} |{/if}{if $jrembed} jrembed{/if} {if $jrimage} image{/if} {if $jrsmiley} jrsmiley{/if} | spellchecker"

For both Forums discussion posts and Groups discussion posts, I got blank text boxes like the attached image...
When i reset the template as before, my tinymce editor buttons all reappeared again as they were before, unchanged.

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updated by @strumelia: 08/30/15 10:15:36AM
Strumelia
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Oh, i should maybe again post the original code before I tested anything new, and is now what I have reverted back to, which results in the button array as in the previous screenshot:
{jrCore_module_url module="jrCore" assign="murl"}
tinymce.init({
    body_id: "{$form_editor_id}",
    content_css: "{$jamroom_url}/skins/{$_conf.jrCore_active_skin}/css/tinymce.css",
    toolbar_items_size : "small",
    element_format: "html",
    autoresize_bottom_margin: "3",
    keep_styles: false,
    theme: "{$theme}",
    selector: "textarea#{$form_editor_id}",
    relative_urls: false,
    remove_script_host: false,
    convert_fonts_to_spans: true,
    menubar: false,
    statusbar: false,
    paste_as_text: true,
    entity_encoding: "raw",
    height: "100%",
    image_advtab: true,
    plugins: "contextmenu,pagebreak,{if $jrsmiley}jrsmiley,{/if}{if $jrembed}jrembed,media{/if},image,autoresize,{if $table}table,{/if}link,code,fullscreen,textcolor,colorpicker,preview",
    toolbar1: "formatselect | fontselect forecolor {if $strong} bold{/if}{if $em} italic{/if}{if $span} underline{/if} | {if $span || $div} alignleft{/if}{if $span || $div} aligncenter{/if}{if $span || $div} alignright{/if}{if $span || $div} alignjustify |{/if}{if $ul && $li} bullist numlist |{/if}{if $div} outdent indent |{/if} undo redo | link unlink anchor pagebreak{if $table} table{/if} | {if $hr} hr{/if}{if $sub && $sup} | sub sup {/if} | code preview fullscreen{if $jrembed || $jrsmiley} |{/if}{if $jrembed} jrembed{/if}{if $jrsmiley} jrsmiley{/if}",
    contextmenu: "link image | cut copy paste"
});



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updated by @strumelia: 08/30/15 10:19:30AM
michael
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Looking at your site, your active skin is XXXXX1_June15.

Then I click on the TEMPLATES tab and can see 'jrCore_form_editor.tpl'. It does not have any alterations to it. My guess is your altering somewhere else.

Click on the MODIFY tab, remove the 'contextmenu' menu, hit SAVE. Then hit CANCEL (to get back to the TEMPLATES tab list page), then check the 'ACTIVE' checkbox and save.

If you'd like me to do it for you, just say. :)
Strumelia
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You didn't see the alterations because I had reset it back again after my code test did nothing, Michael.

OK, I did another test, with just eliminating that bottom line #22.
I DO see the results- it removes "cut/copy/paste" from someone's right-click menu options in the text editor. However, afterwards, I still cannot use right-click mouse pasting, which was my whole point...
I was attempting to try out what Curtis had said above:

...."I have also read:
Remove the contextmenu plugin in your tinymce init:
plugins : "autolink,lists,pagebreak,fullscreen,contextmenu","
Will fix it to allow right mouse click pasting"....

My goal was not to simply remove the copy/paste context menu option-- my goal was to remove whatever was not working (which included that) and allow users to actually copy/paste using their own right-click mousing....I thought perhaps through what Curtis had read it might allow copy/paste through bypassing the context menu.

So again now, I have reset that template to its former/original state, Michael.


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michael
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I'll try it on your site. Paste is working for me here under those circumstances on my dev machine. Hold on.
Strumelia
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UPDATE -- got this working!

Here was the original code lines in my custom skin's 'jrCore_form_editor.tpl':

    plugins: "contextmenu,pagebreak,{if $jrsmiley}jrsmiley,{/if}{if $jrembed}jrembed,media{/if},image,autoresize,{if $table}table,{/if}link,code,fullscreen,textcolor,colorpicker,preview",
    toolbar1: "formatselect | fontselect forecolor {if $strong} bold{/if}{if $em} italic{/if}{if $span} underline{/if} | {if $span || $div} alignleft{/if}{if $span || $div} aligncenter{/if}{if $span || $div} alignright{/if}{if $span || $div} alignjustify |{/if}{if $ul && $li} bullist numlist |{/if}{if $div} outdent indent |{/if} undo redo | link unlink anchor pagebreak{if $table} table{/if} | {if $hr} hr{/if}{if $sub && $sup} | sub sup {/if} | code preview fullscreen{if $jrembed || $jrsmiley} |{/if}{if $jrembed} jrembed{/if}{if $jrsmiley} jrsmiley{/if}",
    contextmenu: "link image | cut copy paste"

This time, all I did was remove the ONE word--> contextmenu, between the word plugins: and the word pagebreak, in that first line of the 'plugins:' code. I left everything else untouched.

Now I get my usual Oldfaithful right-click mouse menu in the text editor box, instead of the Tinymce context menu which teasingly 'offers' copy/paste but then does not LET you copy/paste.
Now I can copy/paste like i normally do in the whole rest of my computer universe! :D Works in Forum discussion posts, AND in Group discussion posts, AND in Comment Wall posts! Yaaaaay! My members will love this, it's been quite frustrating for the past couple months for all of us who don't normally use keyboard commands for copy/paste.

Thank you Michael and thank you Curtis!!!

WheWWW, now I can go to bed happy that I got this ONE awesome thing tweaked on my site, and off my 'To Do' list, finally. :) :) :)


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michael
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I can go into a BLOG POST and can see the FireFox right click menu currently and paste is working.
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Strumelia
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oops, we might be tweaking stuff at the same time Michael. see my above post- I got this working right while you were too. Or maybe we collided somehow. lol

I think you may be seeing the result of my having gotten it working properly one minute before you went in just now...?


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michael
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probably. I didn't change anything or save anything. Just saw it was working. Great. Well done. :)
Strumelia
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Yay! Sometimes, a small thing can be a great triumph. Thank you so much for your patience and help Michael. And thank you Curtis!

I think others will find this real helpful in the future, because that weird NON-WORKING copy/paste rightclick was sooooo frustrating for me and for my site members.
All we have to do is remove ONE WORD from the code, in the proper template. :)

P.S. I got my Tinymce "insert image" icon button up and working too. Oh boy!





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updated by @strumelia: 08/30/15 07:51:54PM
michael
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It could be made to be the default. But then the implementation for padding around an image would be weirder.
Strumelia
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I get what you mean, but... I think I have used copy/paste about 50 million times in forum/group posts and comment walls over the past years, and I've used padding around an image in a post like around...never. Ever. l o l


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Strumelia
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Just to finish up here, once I got rid of the 'contextmenu' in the tinymce init plugin list, I was able to also enable my browser's own (free) spellcheck in my text editor in addition to the copy/paste function. See here: https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/forum/using-jamroom/32779/got-copy-paste-and-spellcheck-working-in-my-tinymce-editor



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updated by @strumelia: 09/03/15 04:28:24PM