JrComments Request

gary.moncrieff
gary.moncrieff
@garymoncrieff
10 years ago
865 posts
Hey Guys

Please consider adding threaded support to this module.

Regards

Gary
updated by @garymoncrieff: 11/23/14 10:36:05PM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
Please explain more.
You mean like a forum with different topics per item?


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gary.moncrieff
gary.moncrieff
@garymoncrieff
10 years ago
865 posts
In a way yes.

Main comment
--reply
----reply to reply
--reply to original comment
----reply to reply
-------reply to reply
---------reply to reply
----reply to reply

Another comment
--reply to reply

Hope that makes sense
updated by @garymoncrieff: 10/23/14 12:52:10PM
SteveX
SteveX
@ultrajam
10 years ago
2,584 posts
I like threaded comments, but they only really work when there are thousands of people who will be commenting regularly on a site.

I read threaded comments daily on these sites:
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/
http://www.slashdot.org

http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/03/threading-arrives-on-comment-is-free


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gary.moncrieff
gary.moncrieff
@garymoncrieff
10 years ago
865 posts
Yes they need an active community, but an article can be the start of a much wider discussion and so long as the trolls stay away they can be very good conversations.
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
OK - So we're really talking about 'comments on comments', which is feasible within JR (I think) but wouldn't it be a pain to show them all in their nested structure, and so easy for commenters to comment in the wrong place, intensionally or not?
I've seen this structure on other sites and its a nightmare for a visitor to actually follow what's being said.


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
SteveX
SteveX
@ultrajam
10 years ago
2,584 posts
For me it improves readability on both slashdot and theguardian.

I am more likely to read an "important" (important or hilarious) top level comment in the first hundred or two of top level comments than in the first thousand or two of unnested comments.

Slashdot hides threads according to user "votes", theguardian hides nested comments after the first few, you need to click to read the rest of the thread, they only do one level of nesting.

I wasn't keen on theguardian's transition to threaded comments at first, but it does actually work better for me. Sure, I miss some great comments because I don't open a nested thread, but there are usually thousands of comments on articles I am interested in - time is the main factor in determining whether I see all the interesting comments or not. I run out of time, rarely read more than 2 pages of comments.

So collapsing threads does actually get me reading more of the comments - I am ignoring nested comments rather than scanning them, I am scanning top level comments rather than (usually) less relevant responses to a comment. Now that I am used to the system I can tell more or less if I want to click to open a thread for further reading

Slashdot (with it's community modded closing of threads and multiple levels of nesting) seems to work for me as well. I click to open less threads than on the guardian, tend to rely on the community reputation modding thing.


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updated by @ultrajam: 10/23/14 02:12:09PM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Yeah this is probably doable - it would just need an additional key to save what comment the comment was "in response" to. Definitely can add it to the to-do list as an option.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
gary.moncrieff
gary.moncrieff
@garymoncrieff
10 years ago
865 posts
Thanks Brian and Paul
updated by @garymoncrieff: 10/23/14 02:26:54PM
boplive
@boplive
10 years ago
345 posts
Interesting request...would love to see this in play
michael
@michael
10 years ago
7,719 posts
Before the jrComments module there was the jrDisqus module. It has threaded comments.

https://disqus.com/websites/

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Its in the markeplace in your sites ACP or here:
https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/networkmarket/13/disqus-comments
updated by @michael: 10/23/14 05:37:42PM
gary.moncrieff
gary.moncrieff
@garymoncrieff
10 years ago
865 posts
Yes Michael I know Disqus has these but I'd prefer to see them supported in the native comments. Hope you understand.
michael
@michael
10 years ago
7,719 posts
Yeah. No problem. I've been working on a similar setup for a module in the Site Builder set and it can get a bit messy in some places. Like right now when a user comments on a blog, it goes into their timeline with something like:

Quote: Posted a new Comment on "second blog with a poll":

And if your following them, you see that and can click to visit the blog post (because blog posts appear on a profile). When you put comments on comments that would be a link to the comment which doesn't have its own place, so its weird. So there'd be some testing needed.
gary.moncrieff
gary.moncrieff
@garymoncrieff
10 years ago
865 posts
I have experienced weird things when clicking on comment links in timeline, a lot of the time it just redirects to the timeline again. This is really confusing and is making me wonder should I disable timeline altogether.

For example, right on jamroom.net

Quote:
@garymoncrieff • 14 hours ago

Posted a new Comment on "jr homepage like fb wall":

"Interested to hear too"

But clicking on the jr homepage fb wall link directs me to the jamroom.net homepage.

At a guess I'd imagine comments don't have a notion of individual permalink which is then appended to links in timeline to bring you directly to the comment?
updated by @garymoncrieff: 10/24/14 02:43:27AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
gary.moncrieff:
But clicking on the jr homepage fb wall link directs me to the jamroom.net homepage.

That sounds like a bug - I will check it out. Here's how it is supposed to work:

- if the timeline entry is an action (comment, rating, whatever) on an ITEM, then the link from the timeline should be a link to that item's detail page.

- if the timeline entry is a status update, then the link is the detail page for that specific timeline entry where users can comment on that specific entry.

So it sounds like something is being overlooked in the first case here and I will check that out.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
This has been fixed in User Comments 1.2.1 (and here on Jamroom.net) - update and you'll see it fixed on your site. Root cause was the item_action.tpl needed to be updated to support the URL changes in version 1.2.0, and it had been overlooked.

Let me know if you see any issues.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
gary.moncrieff
gary.moncrieff
@garymoncrieff
10 years ago
865 posts
Thank you Brian that immediately makes the timeline useful.
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
gary.moncrieff:
Thank you Brian that immediately makes the timeline useful.

I agree :)


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net

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