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Holly Dilatush
Holly Dilatush
@holly-dilatush
8 years ago
212 posts
Hello all,
I'm a happy Ning 2.0 to JamRoom 6 beta site owner.

We are using the JRdiscussion module for our main forum (rather than the JamRoom forum module).

I also paid for the marvelous transfer tool... to transfer group discussions to forums (to our JRdiscussion forum categories).

We've just gone live this week, and I have a few related questions/challenges we're running into:

On Ning, I was used to creating a group, immediately going to discussions in that group and scrolling to the bottom to select 'follow' (so that I would receive email notifications for any new discussion added.

[we had 175+ theme-based groups, with over 7000 discussions, which have now been transferred into a MUCH more user-friendly compact 24 forum categories]

1. Is there a way that master admins (at a minimum) or any quota (preferred) could be set so that a user COULD choose to follow a complete category in our JRdiscussion forum (rather than having to go through and click to follow each discussion imported into that category)? [As master admin/lead teacher/community manager on our site, I WANT to follow ALL discussions, always. Is this possible? (please say yes) :)

2. I notice that in groups (all of our remaining groups on our JamRoom site are private groups, not public groups) we can follow the group. I assume/hope this means I will receive notifications of any new discussion and reply comment and any comment wall comment added to any group I choose to follow.

My question is: Must I click to follow each individual discussion that was imported?

3. Is there a way to have GROUP CREATORS automatically follow private group discussions?

4. a glitch we're discovering in our JRdiscussion forums => when anyone clicks to follow an individual discussion topic, the icon turns gold for as long as that user has that discussion window open.
However, if that same user visits that discussion page again, the icon reverts to white (consistently). It does NOT remain yellow after a user leaves the page (however the user DOES still receive email notifications). This is, of course, confusing/annoying because as a user I 'know' I have followed that discussion, and if I click on the icon again to turn it yellow, instead it UNfollows! I hope this is a glitch that can be fixed (or a dumb setting error on my part, in which case I hope you can guide me as to how to fix such setting).

Thank you for anticipated answers/help,
updated by @holly-dilatush: 02/15/17 05:26:09AM
researchcooperative
@researchcooperative
8 years ago
694 posts
Is JRdiscussion the formal name? Do you mean the Group Discussion module here?

Also, when you mention paying for a "transfer tool", I suppose this means the "Change Item Owner" module, which puts a transfer tool inside the Group Discussion module.

In my set up, I cannot find any jrDiscussion module, nor any module with Transfer in its name. But in the process of looking, I found the "Change Item Owner" module, which appears to be a wonderful tool for moving almost anything anywhere.

The module itself does not display a tool panel, but instead puts a tool panel inside most other modules so that items (Profiles, Groups etc.) can moved around, from one quota to another.

See /the-jamroom-network/documentation/modules/2959/change-item-owner

Thanks


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PJ Matthews, Kyoto
Migrated from Ning 2.0. Now at Jamroom 6 beta and using Jamroom Hosting for The Research Cooperative (researchcooperative.org)

updated by @researchcooperative: 10/07/16 11:16:53PM
joanna
@joanna
8 years ago
88 posts
Hi @researchcooperative :)
Holly was talking about module called Discussions.

A bit more you can read in this discussion:
https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/forum/new_posts/44455/can-i-move-discussions-from-a-group-to-my-sites-community-forum

Change Item Owner is a different tool than a tool to move group discussions to Discussions.
Discussions module is a bit similar to Forum, but for example your discussionsite might be threaded.

Joanna
Holly Dilatush
Holly Dilatush
@holly-dilatush
8 years ago
212 posts
Yes, we purchased/installed from the Marketplace both the JRdiscussion and the Transfer Tool.

We are using JRdiscussion in place of the usual JR forum module.

I am really hoping for a retro-active option to auto follow all imported discussions (those that we imported as groups from our Ning site and then transferred with the tool to JRdiscussion forum categories).

As lead teacher and community manager for a language-learning site, I give at least a cursory glance to ALL posts on our site.

I have five years of habit of following everything on Ning and receiving hundreds of email notifications daily, which I can often scan via email and delete, or right click and open in a new tab in batches, to reply to.

Having to work from the Latest Activity (timeline?) stream on our home page and then to remember to follow all discussions -- including the ones I add! -- is cumbersome and it is so easy to miss one.

I hope that we can have these options:

*default = the profile who adds a post AUTOMATICALLY follows his/her own discussions

*master admin option to auto-follow ALL discussions (retroactively from import AND future)

*all users to have the option to click to follow a CATEGORY (similar to how one can follow a GROUP), so that email notifications are sent each time a new topic is added in that category?

*resolution to number 4 in my original post.

-- -- --
We've just gone live a few days ago, and returning Ning members are excited but frustrated.
Overall they love the new site, but as they begin to settle in and begin being active again, they are frustrated.

This, of course, is a feeling we want to eradicate as much as possible.

Any and all help appreciated,
Holly Dilatush
Holly Dilatush
@holly-dilatush
8 years ago
212 posts
I just now thought of the wonderful auto-follow tool...
Holly Dilatush
Holly Dilatush
@holly-dilatush
8 years ago
212 posts
and wonder if we can ADD (rather than change)

profile, jrdiscussion
Holly Dilatush
Holly Dilatush
@holly-dilatush
8 years ago
212 posts
We would want to (hope to) be able to select DIFFERENT users for these options, however.

But something along these lines would work for me as master admin.

Just sharing what I've been exploring as I try to find solutions,
researchcooperative
@researchcooperative
8 years ago
694 posts
[quote="Holly Dilatush"]
Yes, we purchased/installed from the Marketplace both the JRdiscussion and the Transfer Tool.

These do not appear in my Marketplace, and when I looked inside Jamroom.net for the Discussion module, I found the icon, but the link is bad:

"OOPS... PAGE NOT FOUND

Sorry - we couldn't find the page you requested."

In any case, I am doing well currently with the Change Item Owner module.


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PJ Matthews, Kyoto
Migrated from Ning 2.0. Now at Jamroom 6 beta and using Jamroom Hosting for The Research Cooperative (researchcooperative.org)
paul
@paul
8 years ago
4,326 posts
Quote: These do not appear in my Marketplace, and when I looked inside Jamroom.net for the Discussion module, I found the icon, but the link is bad:
These are both currently custom modules and not generally available.


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
researchcooperative
@researchcooperative
8 years ago
694 posts
Thanks for the clarification. Any plan for them to be released eventually? They do sound useful, if they can be used to move individual topic threads between forums and group forums.


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PJ Matthews, Kyoto
Migrated from Ning 2.0. Now at Jamroom 6 beta and using Jamroom Hosting for The Research Cooperative (researchcooperative.org)
paul
@paul
8 years ago
4,326 posts
The 'Group Discuss item to Forum Category' may well be released in the near future, but not the Discussion module.
Note that the former module is 'one-way' - Group Discuss to Forum and not visa versa.


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
Holly Dilatush
Holly Dilatush
@holly-dilatush
8 years ago
212 posts
Just putting a note here again... back to the original question... is there a way to follow a complete category in JRdiscussion... rather than having to follow each individual post? SOME of our members would prefer this option, and 7000 discussions are a lot to click to follow.

Thanks,
paul
@paul
8 years ago
4,326 posts
I'll have a look to see how easy that might be - No promises though ;-)


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
Holly Dilatush
Holly Dilatush
@holly-dilatush
8 years ago
212 posts
Thanks, Paul. Appreciate your taking a look ~
Holly Dilatush
Holly Dilatush
@holly-dilatush
8 years ago
212 posts
FYI for all, the other issue (the follow icon not staying 'gold') has been fixed. It now works correctly when you click on an individual discussion to follow it, the icon does stay gold now.

But two more members have griped about the fact that someone has posted a comment on prior posts of theirs, and they 'assumed' they'd be notified, but were not, and so they did not respond as they normally would have. Two of them received notes from other members with "Why haven't you answered my question yet?" follow-ups... and they felt bad.

These active members, and myself, would LOVE to be able to follow a complete category. Several of our members have replied to hundreds (even thousands) of our imported discussions, and are very accustomed to being automatically notified whenever someone replies to one of their discussions and/or to one of someone else's discussions to which they have previously replied.

Hope you'll be able to help us out soon with this automated follow full category in JrDiscussion. Thanks,
paul
@paul
8 years ago
4,326 posts
Thanks Holly - I'll check out how easy that might be.


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist

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