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Clay Gordon
Clay Gordon
@claygordon
9 years ago
733 posts
I have Mailgun set up.

The email utility looks like it's sending out 10 messages four seconds or so. That's a long time until I get to 9000+

Also, encountered a Gateway timeout while sending. Only sent the first 750 according to the progress panel.

I am going to have to crash out of this. What will happen?
updated by @claygordon: 02/24/15 06:49:25PM
brian
@brian
9 years ago
10,148 posts
thechocolatelife:
I have Mailgun set up.

The email utility looks like it's sending out 10 messages four seconds or so. That's a long time until I get to 9000+

Also, encountered a Gateway timeout while sending. Only sent the first 750 according to the progress panel.

I am going to have to crash out of this. What will happen?

If you're using the Mailgun HTTP API, that sounds about right. The only "solution" is to have the server's Postfix customized to use Mailgun as a "sendhost", but that requires root level access to configure Postfix.


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Clay Gordon
Clay Gordon
@claygordon
9 years ago
733 posts
Postfix fix at Arvixe? I can always ask.

Other question - what happens if I crash out? Has the process been stopped because of the gateway timeout or is the process running and I am just not getting the updates?
brian
@brian
9 years ago
10,148 posts
thechocolatelife:
Postfix fix at Arvixe? I can always ask.

Other question - what happens if I crash out? Has the process been stopped because of the gateway timeout or is the process running and I am just not getting the updates?

If you want to stop it, you need to stop your queues:

ACP -> Core -> Tools -> Queue Viewer - "Pause Queues" button.

Then you can delete all queue entries from the "jr_jrcore_queue" table if you want to delete them.


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Clay Gordon
Clay Gordon
@claygordon
9 years ago
733 posts
It crashed - there was no queue to see.

Doesn't matter though, as the bounce rate (out of date email addresses) was too high and Mailgun temporarily suspended my account. lol not.

Catch-22. Wants me to clean up my database of old emails (what was Ning do with all the bounces ???!) but I can't do that unless I know which ones are bouncing!
updated by @claygordon: 01/24/15 03:12:36PM
Clay Gordon
Clay Gordon
@claygordon
9 years ago
733 posts
I am going to have to manually delete the bounced accounts to keep the Ning import send email tool from sending email - or any other mail - to those accounts in the future. Right?


Some are "mailbox full" which means they are valid accounts still.

Others are "no such email". Some just seem stupid -- 550 Host Unknown for alum.mit.edu.
brian
@brian
9 years ago
10,148 posts
Yeah this is going to be tough, as you likely have a very high percentage of bad emails. I would recommend contacting Mailgun and letting them know what you're up to - they may have suggestions on the best way to go about it.


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Clay Gordon
Clay Gordon
@claygordon
9 years ago
733 posts
Brian -

I just entered a ticket with Mailgun.

Is there anyway to keep the Ning email invite function to send to some addresses in future? If I turn off all Notifications in a profile?

Fortunately, most of the members on the mailfun bounce list have added little or no content so it's not such a big deal to delete their profiles and accounts. However there is a slight chance that some will have some content I want to keep. The alternative is to assign a bogus email to a catchall account, e.g., bounce001@thechocolatelife.com, bounce002, bounce003 so at least they'll be accepted and we can worry about the member claiming the account if/when they want to.
updated by @claygordon: 01/24/15 03:42:25PM
Clay Gordon
Clay Gordon
@claygordon
9 years ago
733 posts
If I send them NOT via Mailgun at least I will get the bounces, but that might make Arvixe mad.

Rock. (me) Hard place.
Clay Gordon
Clay Gordon
@claygordon
9 years ago
733 posts
Because Ning doesn't care about bounces, I am going to send emails via Ning telling people to use "Forgot Login" to reset their passwords. Hopefully this will help me reduce the number of people I need to send an email from the Ning Import utility and I can start right now, not wait until Mailgun support gets back to me.

Yay!
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
9 years ago
3,603 posts
I'll be interested in knowing how this works out for you Clay- using the ning 'broadcast' system and the 'forgot password' trick.


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Clay Gordon
Clay Gordon
@claygordon
9 years ago
733 posts
I know that a small handful of members have already done it - not wanting to wait until I send out the official email.

It just occurred to me that there is another problem, which is that two members replied to me asking me to delete their accounts. That's not the problem. What is the problem is that the email that is being sent does not appear to pay attention to the fact that I have the strong password module installed - and I wonder if logging in with those passwords will work.

Whee! Something else to test. Tonight. I guess sleep really is overrated.
brian
@brian
9 years ago
10,148 posts
Disable the strong password module for now - re-enable it down the road when you feel everyone has migrated.


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Clay Gordon
Clay Gordon
@claygordon
9 years ago
733 posts
I know that Paul is back on Monday, I will take these up with him on his return.

(And Paul, if you are reading these - ignore them until Monday.) lol

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