the couple things i need from your end to be ready to move

soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
ofcourse theres still several things from my end i need to work out before i can move and thats easily going to take a couple more weeks if i get lucky and not have too much troyuble

but theres a couple things that to me seem high priority to be ready from your end

the biggest of wich is groups and i have some suggestions wiithin the groups feature all the "porofile" parts should be hidden the sidebar the profile menu everything up to the header and if the profile uses a custom logo in profile tweaks that should revert to the site default (i suppose there maybe special cases where you might want those parts seen so maybe it should be ah option with the default as hiden)
the discussionsmodule with(in the group canb go above the comments and a group bio box above that (full editor for text and multimedia)
optionaly the profile menu can be replaced with a group menu that includes discussions comment wall and pages (if u want to go tyere a group specific gallery thats isolated from the main gallery would be cool...down the road no hurry)

having that groups set up right with all parts accessible from within the group.. and not looking like its part of a profile but a stand alone thing (even thiugh i know technicaly everythings within a profile..but if it just didnt look like it was a group should be about the group not the profile owner that created the group

im not sure if you have control over this or just foxy cart
but having only a 1 shipping price option per item per domestic or international is unrealistic and a nightmare to work out
i spent 6 hours on the phone today trying to get a somple answeer to how much would it cost to send a 5.4 oz bar of soap and a 12 oz bottle of shampoo domesticly and internationaly
there was no simple answer
so there needs to be zone rate options flat rate options ..the shipping needs to be more configurable

i can go live without that but alot of shops are going to find that hard to use since rates vary zip code to zip code wether its going to a residenbce or business wether the box is round square rectangle

i asked how much it costs to ship a bar of soap and got an answer " well our maximum size is 160 inches by 160 inches and 150 pounds and thats anywhere from 38 and up based on the value of the shipment
i said its 3 inches by 1 inch and thevalues 10 bucks and the weight 5.4 oz so how much

well our maximum size is and our maximum weight is.....

its impossible to get a simple answer that covers all domestic and all Internationale with 1 price per item


other then the groups needing everything accessible and to not look oike part of a profile the blogs should have a menu item not just the front page thing
i created my own but there should be 1


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 07/09/16 09:21:02AM
brian
@brian
11 years ago
10,149 posts
1) you can add {jrProfile_disable_sidebar} to any profile template to disable the "sidebar" in jrNingja.

2) You would have to work with Foxycart on this to setup all your different shipping info - Jamroom is not involved in that

3) Blogs DO have a profile menu item - is that what you mean?

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
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updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
11 years ago
3,603 posts
I agree with SE.
It's SUPER important that the Groups default layout be logical and semi-familiar to ning veterans. The BASIC group layout should not have to be laboriously tweaked using code by every person who comes from ning.

Many of my longtime most active and important groups were actually created by members who are long gone from my network. It makes zero sense to have them showing on the group page anymore. Plus, because of group creators later leaving my network, as of the past 3 yrs I am the only person creating new groups (after considering suggestions from members) so again- I don't need the omnipresent ME showing on the group main page. l o l

Groups should (by default) NOT be showcasing who created the group or that person's profile info at all. Each Group main page needs to appear autonomous (stand alone). Right now the top of the group page has a big banner featuring simply the name of the member who created it. But it doesn't even explain they crteated it- it just looks like you are on that member's profile page. Can we get them OFF of there so they do not hover, GOD-like, over each group?

Here is my own view of what each Group main page should have.
Note that many of these things are ALREADY in place:

--Group title.
--Group avatar image (that the admin can change) (note: not the profile avatar of the person who created group) Our ning archives contain those GROUP avatar images.
--Text box for additional group info and media the admins may want to add
--group's discussion forum showing latest active at top
--group's Comment Wall listing latest at top. (Comment module BELOW discussion module)
--A list of group members to the side (a small module with grid of tiny avatars if possible, hovering will reveal member name)
--also a list of Group 'Pages' links, perhaps to the side as well (i'm assuming we already have a way of not allowing members to just create their own group pages willy-nilly, right?)

important --> The discussion and the comments modules should have either scrolling and/or pagination so they do not become miiiiles long.

Thanks so much!



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...just another satisfied Jamroom customer.
Migrated from Ning to Jamroom June 2015

updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
11 years ago
4,335 posts
I'm seeing groups as full page by default in Ningja. No profile sidebar in any of my group views.
??


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist

updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
you are im not and no..i dont mean a blog link on profile i mean in main menu a link to all blogs

groups list is
full screen (but still cant get it to order by latest activiy for some reason)

but the actual group itself is a mess
http://www.greentechnologyforums.com/soaring-eagle/group/312/dreadlockssite-superheroes
no disccussions visible no pages to be found and it looks like its just part odf the profile
not only the sidebar butthe profile menu and up to the pain menu should be hidden
and profile menu replacedwith a group menu ,,unless the discussions members and pages aere all on 1 page
but they could as easily be seperate pages within the group
whatevers easier to do
either way wether 'familiar to ning users' or not will be simple enough to figure out and use


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
11 years ago
4,335 posts
Temporarily switch back to the latest 'stock' Ningja and see if that is ok. It looks to me that it all down to your template mods.


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist

updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
hmm 1 sec ill rtry


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
i saw what i saw minus my profile cover image
but replace profile links to main menu with discussions
replace side with pages
paginate discussions,.. well show 4-6 scroll to 10-12 paginate from there commentes 10-20 paginate


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
11 years ago
3,603 posts
Yikes SE, that 'soaring lion' pic takes up my entire 24 inch desktop screen... =8-0
If you zoom in close enough to read any text on the page, then your lion image is as big as a drive-in movie theatre screen. The lion is like ...everywhere.


Most newcomers from Ning will be on the Ninja skin.
Here is what my groups look like now on Ningja default settings. (almost no customization). I've pointed out the basic problem still in the Ningja skin for Groups:
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Migrated from Ning to Jamroom June 2015

updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
11 years ago
3,603 posts
Yes I agree with SE- both the group discussion s and the comment wall need to paginate after about 12 items. We shouldn't be starting out with a group main page that is 10 miles long.

I seem to have no 'sidebar' issue on the Ningja skin like SE has on his (customized?) skin?


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...just another satisfied Jamroom customer.
Migrated from Ning to Jamroom June 2015

updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
see i see yours diferently its probably because i have site designer enabled that even on my default uncustomized i dont see discussions or pages whatsowever

ah ive come so far on sitebuilder i dont want to have to go back..


oki agree with what she says
i think my sidebar issue andthe fact i see no diuscussions and no pages is the sitrebuilder i will try to disablee it now ..in a clone to be safe and


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

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