future feature request ninglike (but better) chat module

most ning sites rely heavily on a chat module some more then others

but heres my list of feature requests and i encourage all other ning refugees to add to or debate on each so we can have the best options available to fit all our needs
and jr team i would say that all other fonctionalities should be perfected before tyou even begin thinking about this (also if at all possible i'll try to find someone who can help me develop it ourselves so if i can manage that thenyour off the hook)

ok my dream chat would include
a docked chat at the window bottom and/or on page (option to use 1 or the other or both) possibly with a "pop out" option to open the chat in a seperate window from the site

a main "network chat" room a (optional) freinds/followers room or if not room the ability to filter the network chat to operate as a followers only chat
a privAte message instant message type thing (opens a private chat window)

smily support

optional in chAt image and vid support (using the urlscanner module to convert supported links to emnbeded vids)(including links from within the networks vids)

and an optional "guest chat' where logged out non members can still inreract with members if you choose to enable that option

i know thats alot to ask for and to expect
so a very basic no frills chat 1st then extend its capabilities later

hmm wondering if an "active profile" chat would encourage alot more activity as bands/shops/ whatever might spend more time on chatting with thier fans/customers
but then again those might have too much "dead air" time to be worthwhile ..

though for very busy fan sites where multiple ppl manage a profile and thats the norm it might be a worthwhile option to some



note: the aboves more then is needed, more then ning offered more then were used to ..just every option i could think of that might be nice to have

a stripped down no thrills version however is kinda an essential tool for ning users

oh forgot 2 things 3 really the chat/online list /private chat indows if docked should be collapsable like nings is now
private chats should "pop up' (not pop out just extend from the colapsded state) on 1st message
and there should be an optional audio alert of messages and a vissual clue of new messages (like the colapsed bar "blinks' and a numeracal number of new messages

feel free to make an account on www.dreadlockssite.com to see how the current chat works ..


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 07/09/16 09:21:02AM

I have used a lot of php chat systems over the years and have come to the conclusion that they all take up too much resources. Even as good as Cometchat is, it has the same issue.

IRC even though I haven't used it in some time, still seems the best way to chat online. I would be an advocate for clean intuitive php frontend to an IRC server, that the Jamroom team controls, and then rooms can be created via the admin panel.

IRC is too complicated for your normal user but an intuitive interface that passed the IRC commands at the click of a button could be a win win.

Just my 2 cents
updated by @garymoncrieff: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

I built some base structure for a module for cometchat to use to get started building a module for jamroom and passed that off to them last week. Hopefully that will get sorted and into the marketplace to make it an easy 1-click install for cometchat (cometchat.com).

Nice idea Gary, I too love IRC and use it all the time to chat to other developers. Its a great system capable of thousands of users online simultaneously. Never tried running a server though, just login to freenode.

Putting it in the tracker.
updated by @michael: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

woulkd commetchat login as u klogin to thye site and ijtegrate with your profile lkike a view profile option if u click thye name
i dont like cometchats full bar with added crap like games etc
and hated that there was a monthly feee if u had more users
what i was hoping for was something fully integrated using yoiur own server i lkooiied at many last night some used the fikle system others the database some required a jabber serfver running on your server etc the prob was most were hideously ugly and were geared toewards interacting with customkers and visitors
like a hi how may i helkp you buy our stuff type things not an internal network chat


something based off of comentchat but tweaked to seem more integrated instead of added on might work


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

You do know cometchat can be themed like FB or Gtalk? and you can disable those additional plugins.
updated by @garymoncrieff: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

does it run fully on your seerver or depend on contracting an outside server
and isnt it 1 of those that has a monthly fee if over 10 users or something


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

Not sure sorry. Their price options are here:
https://www.cometchat.com/buy

Looks like $49 if you keep "cometchat" showing, or $129 to hide that. Didn't see any mention of where the chat is located, your server or theirs. I suspect it would be yours or they would need to charge monthly to run the server.
updated by @michael: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

thats pretty pricy just for a chat dont ya think?
might have to give it a try though
anbd it uses a integrated login i mean once logged into the site u dont have to login seperately to the chat?
im going to be so broke by the tie i get my site running at this rate
but do need some soirt of chat


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

Its on your own server unless you pay for comet service, hence why this and other php/mysl chat systems can be a complete resource hog.
updated by @garymoncrieff: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

my server can handle it no prob and can be upgraded a hell of alot if needed


ok jr team can i get in on the beta of the chat and the profile domains
im fine with early beta even alpha testing especialy since u=im not live yet
and when your ready to work on an upgraded sitemap id love to be in on the testing from day 1


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

I plan to take a look at chat/irc module once I get the Site Builder done. So there's no beta for that just yet. I'll let you know when there is. Thanks.
updated by @michael: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

sure thing kinda expected that also hows thst coming along i sorta thought it might take aback seat to the rest of the ning type stuff so wouldnt be ready for a good month or so


stil id love to be in on the domain thing that is something that would have an imediate and drastic affect on my site


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

Paul and I are testing the latest release of this right now - this will be released shortly, so not much longer.

Hope this helps!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

if shortly means the next week or 2 then im ecstatic


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM