how to accomplish these

soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
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the next big projects for me are to create a shops page that has 1 full width row that has a slider of featured shops (randomized)
below that 3 colums 1 a category listing with each category openinmg a page liwsting the shops in that category and a "all" link that shows all shops ordered by category
next a "newest items added list" a "most recently purchased list" a most recently viewed list a most popular items list and a random items list


the other thing im trying to figure out is
when a new member joins they be assigned a new member quota that auto changes to full membner after 15-30 days
additionaly when people join and select they want a shop...or they modify thier profile to nadd a shop they get added to a new shops quota that auto updates to full unresstricted after 15-30 days


and this is more a question about how the forums will work once working corectky
assuming that all the niing main forums etc get plopped into a profile and that profile needs a name like dreasdlocks forums and that defaults to profile 1 the creator profile asit is now from my earklier testijng i can change the name of that to dreadlocks forums all the forums are then in that profile but all my postsd have that name
will there be a way to move all the "main site" forums into a blank profile give it a name and then have my name presserved on all my posts



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soaringeagle
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updated by @soaringeagle: 07/09/16 09:21:02AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
11 years ago
3,603 posts
Yes I am not really liking either that all my site's forums (not the group forums) are shown under my personal profile name:
Strumelia > Forum > (forum categories)...
They are not 'my' personal forums, they are the site's forums. I'd like to be the site Admin/Owner with my own personal profile page and my name Strumelia, but then have for example the site's main forums be under: (site name) > Forum > (forum categories)... I realize this is not how things are set up or imported, but it seems non-intuitive and odd- I'm thinking along the lines of what SE is saying:

"and this is more a question about how the forums will work once working corectky
assuming that all the niing main forums etc get plopped into a profile and that profile needs a name like dreasdlocks forums and that defaults to profile 1 the creator profile asit is now from my earklier testijng i can change the name of that to dreadlocks forums all the forums are then in that profile but all my postsd have that name will there be a way to move all the "main site" forums into a blank profile give it a name and then have my name presserved on all my posts"

Thanks for any insight or suggestions on this. :)


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
11 years ago
4,335 posts
AS you know, Jamroom is 'profile-centric', so everything needs to belong to a profile, including a forum (this forum belongs to profile 'ning-to-jamroom').
So before import, one could create a profile called 'forum', or 'global', say, then in the import configuration set the forum target profile to that.


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updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
11 years ago
3,603 posts
...and then do a re-import of our "Discussions" ning archive folder?

Does this new profile (called for example "Forums" have to be a certain TYPE of profile?

If that gets imported correctly, then how do we delete the discussions/forums that are currently under our own profile? or, would you delete all those FIRST, and then do a new import AFTER creating the new profile and setting re-direct?


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
11 years ago
10,149 posts
Strumelia:
Does this new profile (called for example "Forums" have to be a certain TYPE of profile?

There's only 1 type of profile, so just a "regular" profile.

Quote:
If that gets imported correctly, then how do we delete the discussions/forums that are currently under our own profile? or, would you delete all those FIRST, and then do a new import AFTER creating the new profile and setting re-direct?

The Ning Importer will take care of this for you - just select the "Delete and Create" option for discussions once you've setup your "site" profile - and make sure the profile ID of that new Site Profile is setup in the Ning Import global config.

Hope this helps!


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updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
what boout my shops page question


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
11 years ago
4,335 posts
soaringeagle:
what boout my shops page question

Just create a signup quota called 'shop' then users can have the choice when registering. Also, with the latest Core, logged in users can switch between signup quotas themselves.
To automatically switch users after several days you would need a custom module that listens for the 'daily' event and checks all profile _created values changing their profile_quota_id value accordingly.
hth
Pa


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updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
11 years ago
3,603 posts
Paul, I was looking at these settings myself today, and i'm a bit confused as to this:
If I set signups so that new singup members can choose their own quota when joining, (like say teacher, or student, performer, or vendor)- then wouldn't that also give them the ability of choosing to make themselves admins? OR... do i go into the quota setting to simply 'hide' just the admin quota/role from being shown at all in the signup choices?


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
it alows them to switch to quoutas that you set to 'allow signups to quouta)


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
11 years ago
3,603 posts
I'm sorry, but I just don't understand that sentence.

Paul?


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
when you set up quotas you have to check a box that says "aloiow new members to sign up into quota"
uif that box isnt checked then they cannot swiutch into a quota that they cant sign up into at sign up

if when they join theres no option to join nas an admin then theres no way they can switch to an admin

it only lets them switch to quoitas that you already said they can sign up as

like if u alow them toi register as a student
or a teacher
the student can switch to teacher the teacher can switch to student
if you have a quota called master
and admins have to manualy switch to that
or they auto switch ti that after x number of days then they cant switch to that
the only quotas they can switch between are the ones listed on the sign up form


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
i dont think your even trying to understand sometimes


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
paul:
soaringeagle:
what boout my shops page question

Just create a signup quota called 'shop' then users can have the choice when registering. Also, with the latest Core, logged in users can switch between signup quotas themselves.
To automatically switch users after several days you would need a custom module that listens for the 'daily' event and checks all profile _created values changing their profile_quota_id value accordingly.
hth
Pa

well heres the thing
i want them to be able to sign up for several options or combos of options
1 a craft shop that sells real goods
2 a digital shop that sells digital goods like music
3 a digital shop that also sells bundles
4 a shop that sells both real and digital goods
5 a shiop that sells real digital and bundles

ok and i get how themodule would work now i think just clueless how to make it work haha thats definateoly 1 ill have to get help with


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
11 years ago
3,603 posts
soaringeagle:
i dont think your even trying to understand sometimes

You know, I can't even make a single post here on the Jamroom forums anymore without you SoaringEagle jumping in to take over by answering any questions that I have specifically directed to the people at JR, or else you immediately and relentlessly contradict and debate everything I write to somehow prove that I'm 'wrong'. It's become extremely unpleasant, unproductive, and frustrating. I'm taking a break from here. Have fun.


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
sorry for trying to help and here we go with the same old strum crap

guess it wasnt the stress of dealing with ning after all


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
michael
@michael
11 years ago
7,793 posts
Strumelia:
Paul, I was looking at these settings myself today, and i'm a bit confused as to this:
If I set signups so that new singup members can choose their own quota when joining, (like say teacher, or student, performer, or vendor)- then wouldn't that also give them the ability of choosing to make themselves admins? OR... do i go into the quota setting to simply 'hide' just the admin quota/role from being shown at all in the signup choices?

Sorry I should have answered this sooner to avoid communication difficulties. Thanks for trying to answer SE.

so ... Admin is a user level setting while quota is a group of resources allocated. Nobody can signup as an admin user.

Admin is a user level setting, not a profile level one. Quotas are applied to profiles.

So the admin (or any user) could be associated with more than one profile.

eg: user: michael (me :) ) is connected to /michael and to /ning-to-jamroom profiles. On /ning-to-jamroom there is a forum. That is because the quota that /ning-to-jamroom is in allows forums. /michael is in a different quota and does not have a forum.

one user, many profiles. Its the user 'michael' that is the admin user not the profile /michael

Did you ever get to see this page?

"Concepts the Admin user needs to know."
https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/documentation/getting-started/2167/concepts-the-admin-user-needs-to-know

Its related to this but with diagrams.

If you look at the "Quota Browser" under:
ACP -> USER PROFILES -> TOOLS -> QUOTA BROWSER
( yoursite.com/profile/quota_browser )

You will see which quotas allow signups and which dont.
updated by @michael: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
11 years ago
4,335 posts
Just to add to what Michael is saying, I may have confused you on your site by giving Admin his own quota and importing all Ning members to another profile thereby giving the impression that Admin needs his own quota. This is not the case. I did it just to keep them separate. They could have all been lumped in with admin in the same quota and admin would still be admin, and imported Ning members would not have had admin privileges.

SE -
Quote:
well heres the thing
i want them to be able to sign up for several options or combos of options
1 a craft shop that sells real goods
2 a digital shop that sells digital goods like music
3 a digital shop that also sells bundles
4 a shop that sells both real and digital goods
5 a shiop that sells real digital and bundles
Profiles can only be in one quota, so combinations of the above will need to be different quotas.

Quote: ok and i get how themodule would work now i think just clueless how to make it work haha thats definateoly 1 ill have to get help with
What you describe is relatively straightforward. We can help you with that when it comes to it.


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updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
ok im all set up with tye exception of the module to change profile quotas to full
i got the quotas in place jusdt not the mechanism

i want to add 1 note wich idmade the mistake of early on
u can alow signups as admin if u check allow signups gfor admin quota or if u click apply to all and aloew signups


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
11 years ago
4,335 posts
Quote: i want to add 1 note wich idmade the mistake of early on
u can alow signups as admin if u check allow signups gfor admin quota or if u click apply to all and aloes signups

Not true - see what I wrote above.
No one can ever signup as an admin. The fact that I have admin in his own quota after doing an import may be confusing people. Admin does not need his own quota. I just did it that way as an option to keep all imported members in their own quota.


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist

updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
odd cause admin quota was onb the signup form
but i guess what your saying is that just cause your in admin quota doesnt give you admin rights?

and what about assigning admin roles moderator rols etc
can you assign users as admins and do thry have the same admin priviledges as a master admin (me) or are they more like moderators


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
11 years ago
4,335 posts
Yeah - Calling it 'Admin Quota' just adds to the confusion - sorry. In fact 'Admin Quota' and 'Member Quota', as I named them for importing, are identical. One was cloned off the other. I'll have to think of another name in future - maybe leave it as the default 'Example Quota' - so as not to cause this confusion going forward.

Yes, admin (you) can assign other users as 'Profile Admin' or a 'Master Admin'. Profile Admins can modify any other profile and user pages, so these could be termed as 'moderators', whilst Master Admins have the same privileges as you so can help you out when your site get too big to manage on your own ;-)
As Admin, checkout any user account page to see these options.


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updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
ok so really the "groups" as aposed to quoutas is what determines the powers


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
11 years ago
4,335 posts
soaringeagle:
ok so really the "groups" as aposed to quoutas is what determines the powers

'User Groups', yes, not to be confused with imported Ning Groups !!


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updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
lolyea i knew that buit hey can u look at my latest post in the www thread its kinda an emergency after changing the config to www i cant login i assume i need to clear the cookies tables in the database just want to be sure


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

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