current issues

current issues im seeing minor and major
but 1st thnx for fixing some of the big issues you guys rock
@paul 1st off welcome back
now my profile shows a list of "online" names (like that over there now work...yay but ther photo index is still unresponsive (assume you alreadsy knew)
profile index looks a thousand times better except the comments needs a paginattion..or a preview window with finite height and max number of items and a link to a comments page and a view all

this falls more under a feature request then a issue but 1 of the most awesome additions to the ning 3.0 was tab containers that alowed content to load within tab containers and be switched to without reloadinmg the page therefore u can have featured photos regulart photos in a tab container u can have blogs discussions groups etc in tab containers so they all openb in the same space (previews ) its a great space saver that makes theuser experience so much nicer

@douglas and/or @paul not sure whos issues these fall under but discussions that belong in forums are still lumped under groups with all the replies missing

and finaly cant remember whos dept this would be but when upgrading the 'upgrade all" never works u gotta upgrade 1 at a time

my pc was dead for a week almost just getting back to working on it so there maybe more to add as i explore


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 07/09/16 09:21:02AM

I've never once seen this, and can only assume it's related to a custom template edit of the "online users" template in the jrUser/templates directory.

I have no idea what else it could be.


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Brian Johnson
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updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

it isnt thats never been edited and douglas i think took a look at it to verify
i tried sifting through json data unsure of what i should be looking for and did multiple tests its not simply that list if u search those names they link to my profile too because they were never given a url of thier own during import


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

It sounds like you might be testing out on an old import (the profile_url key should be created for every single profile). I'd recommend doing a full re-import and have it recreate everything and see if you still see an issue.

Hope this helps!


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Brian Johnson
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updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

Thanks - It was fun and a great family get together.

There have been a lot of changes to the import scripts whilst I was away, and since. I've done a few upgrades and groups import ok for me. I think its best/cleanest, if possible, to drop all group, page and discuss database entries and re-import them. Note that jrNingDiscuss and jrNingPage modules are no longer needed and should be deleted. Make sure you have the new jrGroup, jrGroupPage and jrGroupDiscuss modules and that jrNingImport is the latest one, then re-import all three archives (groups first). You'll also now need the jrForum module. In the import setup you now specify which profile forum any 'un-grouped' discussions go into.

I occasionally see that happening. I'll raise it as an issue.

Thought it had been quite here recently


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

haha yea it was a nightmare fixingit so your family is in india thats aaeesome

im doing afresh archive so instead of doing overwrite if diferent size i should upload a whole fresh nbhew archive overwritting everything even though that will take days longer
can u tell me exactly wich tables to drop in the database

on the plus side finaly getting complete archives

is there any eta on when you expect the ning thing to be fully ready


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

If you are doing a fresh import, I'd be inclined to drop all the tables, empty the data folder and do a fresh install.
Of course, making sure that you have no skin or module template/language/css modifications on the database first, i.e.. anything done in the ACP editors.

The Ning import module is pretty well complete now and seems to be working very well. The only frustration I have is the fact that Ning fail to link pages to groups in their archives. There is a tool in the jrGroupPage module to do this by hand after the import, but if there are a lot of group pages, this could be time consuming, but as the Ning archives stand, there's not much that can be done about that.


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

Yes this is needed. For Group 'comments' as well. You don't want a comment wall going on for miles and miles- either on someone's profile page, or on a main Group page- it's never be finished loading. My Beginner players Group typically gets about 20 new comments a day.

A little question I have- when we go to the "Groups" main page- there doesn't seem to be any rhyme or reason for the order in which the Groups are listed. I have about 60 groups/6 pages of them. Is there a way for us to have the groups listed in some sort of logical order- like most Active, or Most Members, or most Recent Activity? Just wondering.


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

In the Ningja skin groups are ordered newest to oldest by default.
If you want to change that, edit the group module index.tpl in the ACP
Find the line

{jrCore_list module="jrGroup" order_by="_item_id numerical_desc" pagebreak=10 page=$_post.p pager=true}

and change the order_by option

order_by="group_title asc" for alphabetical listing
order_by="group_comment_count numerical_desc" for number of comments (highest first)
etc
etc


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

i did alot of template edits using the skin template modify button is that stored in the database all css was done through ftp
and i keep a backuip of all css on my drive i plan on once its compledted combining all stylesheets into 1 and minifying

question
can smarty codes be added to css
for advanced users i want to alow css control on profiles in 1 of2 ways
1 total css stylesheet replacement (only the mo9st advanced userrs) or adding css to the end of the existing stylesheet


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

Paul- Sorry to be dense, but can you tell me what the "etc etc" code would be for the order_by options of:
Most Active, or Most Members, or most Recent Activity
-is that possible?


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

in the template you need to edit stick this in the templ;ate save enable the chsanges if thats the 1st edit save (if developer modes not on clear cache in acxp tools) reload the page
a popup window will pop up and list every available option
do control f type group and cycle through every mention of group you will see and the options for instance if u see 1 that says group_member_count add nummerical_desc to get the most members
u can order by creation date etc(and mind you i have just the vagues) but youd create a "lisstener" that listens for group activity then moves it to the top of the list

but i dont think thats nesacary and like i said thats a very rough guess based on knowing almost nothing


1 sec ill see if i cant find a better answer for ya


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

ok i was wrong the debug was no help but then on a whik i explored the data browser
there i found
i think it was group_member_count
and group_comment_count
both of wich u can use as a sort criteria
im sure the group discussion modules wouolkd have a simular discussion and re0ly counjt wich u can sort by


most recently active though will take a lil more thought to figure out

but ya can see by poking around u can get an idea as to what options there are for sorting searching etc


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

@paul i did alot of template edits inj the skin and some in modules are thise stored in the database if so i8d onoly want to remove the specific database tables that deal with ning imports
if i search the database tables for ning shouod that find them all

no rush to answer the upload of ther fresh archives going to take awhile


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

Paul- can you tell me what the "etc etc" code snippets would be for the order_by options of:
Most Active, or Most Members, or most Recent Activity
-are those sorting options possible? Thanks


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

like i said member count absolutely
comment counjt absolutely (could that count as most active?)
as for most recently active a listener would have to be set up....from my understanding anyways

order_by="group_comment_count numerical_desc" for number of comments (highest first)
for member count
order_by="group_member_count numerical_desc"
that lists most number of members 1st

hmmm thinking... the activity feed wouldhave a listener that lists the most recent activity in groups i believe so u might be able to sort through that figure it out and adapt it

im trying to take the creating a commbunity course and the developers course today but the archive uploads making it hard to take the course

id recomend u check them out the 1 is free the othsers 29 bucks but if u join the backstage community for premium help wich i did the backstage is 29 bucks and theres a coupon codde in there to make the development course free

i havent started either yert do to slowness but after takinmg them you should be able to find your way around figuring this all out yourself

for now the member count and comment count will have to do till i work out the rest
you could even add a selector like ninghad to re-order it according to users preferences once you are familiar enough with the template editing


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

Thanks very much Soaring but I'd like a reply from Paul or one of the JR team on my question.


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

the answers right in the datas browser
those are the data items available to work with

now if you look into the activity feed data theres another clue but im not exactly certain how to use it yet

although...tyhis might actualy work annd you can certainly test it and try it

heres the data


im just taking an educated guess here but something like

order_by="$action_module=jrgroups numerical_desc"

if my thinking is corect that will list the order by activity of any type within the module jrgroups

give it a try im thinking it might wiork if the syntax is wrong it wont alow you to save it
if the syntax is right but the logic flawed at worse u click reset


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

figured it out i think
lists the groups by creation order

is the activity list of all actions

now we need the activity list but filtered by only the groups items
no wait..the groups list but ordered by activity...


now i dont know the exact syntax yet but something similar to

u might not need the $ = jrAction_item_id might be what you need


but..the basics are there id need an hour of playing around with it trying diferent options to figure the exact code out...but
thats the basic logic of what you need
in a few weeks of playing with code id be alot more sure of myself but have a feeling 1 of the jr team will confirm i was at least close


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

I can't follow those suggestions or instructions. Thanks very much Soaring but I'd like a reply from Paul or one of the JR team on my question.
Maybe I should start a new thread with my question.

Again...

(Paul said): "In the Ningja skin groups are ordered newest to oldest by default.
If you want to change that, edit the group module index.tpl in the ACP
Find the line
{jrCore_list module="jrGroup" order_by="_item_id numerical_desc" pagebreak=10 page=$_post.p pager=true}
and change the order_by option
order_by="group_title asc" for alphabetical listing
order_by="group_comment_count numerical_desc" for number of comments (highest first) etc "


@ Paul (or other JR team member)- can you tell me what the "etc etc" code snippets would be for the order_by options of:
Most Active, or Most Members, or most Recent Activity
-are those three sorting options possible? (instead of sorting by alphabetical for instance)? Thanks


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

i told you most memmbers already most active im not sure of but most comments and most active could be closely related and the most recent activity was the last 1 wich i got you close on i can test it laster and see which code works but thats the only 1 im unsure of most members most comments were already answered

only most recent activity was at all tricky to figure out and all the peices are there just gotta figure out the exact syntax


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

Sorry Soaring I CANNOT UNDERSTAND your instructions nor suggestions.
Nothing personal but please, I am not asking you because I cannot understand your post no matter how many times you repeat it.
I'm asking the Jamroom Team to help with my question.


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

how can you not understand the instructions when its the exact same instructions just replace the word comment with member
comment_count becomes member count

the latest activity im still working on figuring iut its not instructions its clues to how to figure it out the code definately changed the order but the new "test" group came up 1st now and adding commebts to a diferentgroup didnt bring it to the top so its not perfect im still figuring out the exact code but the basic idea is there

that will take some experimenting to get rigght
but the sort by member code is exactly as i put it
and the sort by most comments is virtualy the same as sort by most active is it not?
wouldnt most commen ts be an indication of most activity?

the only 1 thats not fully functional yet is the sort by latest activity and i know what needs to be done just not familiar enough with the code yet to have it exact yet it might need a lil more playing around with


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

How can I not understand? Well since you asked, I guess I will spell it all out.
I have a hard time finding my way around and getting my footing here in JR, but every day i learn some little thing and am making slow progress at my own pace.
I not only have a hard time understanding your coding instructions, but adding your typos and your run-on sentence structures means that very little of your tech talk is EVER clear to me. If it's anything more complex than chitchat, I mostly am unclear as to what you are talking about.
For example:
"i told you most memmbers already most active im not sure of but most comments and most active could be closely related and the most recent activity was the last 1 wich i got you close on i can test it laster and see which code works but thats the only 1 im unsure of most members most comments were already answered"
"the latest activity im still working on figuring iut its not instructions its clues to how to figure it out the code definately changed the order but the new "test" group came up 1st now and adding commebts to a diferentgroup didnt bring it to the top so its not perfect im still figuring out the exact code but the basic idea is there"

I might as well be reading Chinese, seriously. Nothing personal SE, but it makes absolutely NO sense to me. Maybe my brain is in some other planet from yours or something, can't help it.

Just being honest. My head simply cannot follow your directions and writing style, and I am not able to go on wild goose chases testing out your various suggestions which i cannot understand anyway.

I guess I will need to start a whole new thread so I can ask the Jamroom Team for a response to my question above, which I have tried to ask them at least THREE times now, ...but you continue jumping in to answer instead of them.
Please, allow me ask THEM my question without continuing to answer it yourself. Your answers are not helping me.
Here's the deal- When I ask you a site building question (which i sure I will do from time to time), you will know it because I will ask you by name: "Hey Soaring, can you tell me....?" But if I really need a reply from one of the JR Team and NOT YOU, I will ask them my question by name, as in "Paul, can you please tell me...." or "Hey JR Team, how do i..."

I hope I expressed myself clearly. It's nothing personal against you at all, but at this point you are preventing me from getting the clear answers and help I need in order for me to move forward in building my site and learning.
Much appreciated.


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

ok i was off in my thinking but i got it through a l;il research


that i believe will order by latest activity



there is 1 issue for @douglas to look into however
the "join group" button is still there even after you have joined the group


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

the answers are


that is by latest activity

that is by comment count
comment count and "most active' are virtualy the same thing are they not?

thats by member count

its not that hard to understAnd and you dont need to be insulting when i just wasted 3 hours finding the answer for you


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

I'm not being insulting, I'm being honest, straightforward and polite in answering your question wanting to know WHY I don't understand you, but it seems not to matter.


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

well the codes are right there all you need to do is edit the template
its curently set to _item_id just find that and change it to any of the other options

scroll up he told you wich template to edit

and those are your options besides _created wich lists by date created or alphabetic listings by varios criteria like title or created by
everything you see in the data browser post i put up top
or certain hidden system values liked
_item_id _created _updated theres a couple more system wide values always start with _

google jrcore_list and u will find all the options but most of the ordering options are based onhe dataset of the module your working with
so go to that module, then tools, and click data browser

in the data browser you will see a few 'counts' with numbers those can be used to order numericaly high to low or low to high

and a couple liked title with text those can be used to sort alphabeticaly

1 sec ill find the system values again

_created
_updated
_user_id
_item_id
_profile_id


you can also order by ratings if you enable ratings wich could be used as a "most popular" listing

this page will help alot

https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/documentation/development/89/jrcore-list


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

um disregard the _update 1 on 1st test it seemed to work just right but a 2nd test didnt
i think there is a way to do it based onmultiple criteria and make it work im just lil too tired at the momment


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

I asked my question again on a new thread, thanks all.


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM