yikes multiple problems

soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
ok i did the groups update thinjg followed the directions disabling but not deleting the modules
and im thoroughly confused and wondering if things went terribly wrong

the forums discussions link in the menus gone .. the very backbone of my site
i see groups 1st 1 i clicked got a not found 2nd 1 i clicked really only looked like a comment wall
whenj i click discussions wich now i see discussions in that box i get a list of discussions stripped of thier categories with no organization

ans every one i clicked was not found

whats more im finding inconsitencies with the background of wrapper on some pages includes the footer on others the footers grey

im going to try to figure out what went wrong

lil pannicky

the forums are what were known for thats our heart and soul
and they need to beeassy to use and categorized
i dont care if they all gert pulled into a profile called dreadlocks forums or whatever
im also not finding our pages now
did i shut off the wrong modules




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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 07/09/16 09:21:02AM
brian
@brian
11 years ago
10,149 posts
soaringeagle:
ok i did the groups update thinjg followed the directions disabling but not deleting the modules
and im thoroughly confused and wondering if things went terribly wrong

the forums discussions link in the menus gone .. the very backbone of my site
i see groups 1st 1 i clicked got a not found 2nd 1 i clicked really only looked like a comment wall
whenj i click discussions wich now i see discussions in that box i get a list of discussions stripped of thier categories with no organization

It sounds like you need the Profile Forum module - not Discussion Groups. Discussion Groups only appear WITHIN a group - they are not system-wide forum discussions - that's the Profile Forum (like you are on here). It supports categories, etc.

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ans every one i clicked was not found

That's correct - the module names changed and your skin is probably referencing the old URLs.

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whats more im finding inconsitencies with the background of wrapper on some pages includes the footer on others the footers grey

im going to try to figure out what went wrong

lil pannicky

the forums are what were known for thats our heart and soul
and they need to beeassy to use and categorized
i dont care if they all gert pulled into a profile called dreadlocks forums or whatever
im also not finding our pages now
did i shut off the wrong modules




I've posted this elsewhere, and want to be sure everyone understand how things are laid out:

- Profile Forum - this module is what you want to use for a forum - i.e. what we are typing on right now

- Page Creator - this is used for pages OUTSIDE groups

- Group Discussions - this is for discussions INSIDE a group, and only inside a group.

- Group Pages - this is for pages INSIDE a group, and only inside a group.

Note that the latest NingJa skin is updated to support the proper links.

HOWEVER (and this is important) - right now the Ning Importer does NOT import into the Profile forum, and that will need to be updated when Paul gets back from vacation - you will then at that time need to re-run the import so the discussions get put in to their proper place.

Let me know if that helps.

Thanks!


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Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
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updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
the ones that are fou7nd dont have the replies with them
and they seem orphaned outside a group or cafegory


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
ok
ok ill wait on paul
was a lil scared there

yea having the forums in a profiles fine
as long as i have the forums..lol


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
11 years ago
3,603 posts
Don't worry SE- I'm waiting on the same thing. We'll get our regular forums back in all their former glory! Just gotta get one thing attended to at a time. :)

Hey Brian- Thanks so much for making the main photo/images section into a nice grid showing all members' photos- it's sooo much nicer and more efficient for browsing now!


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
oh yes im loving it tho can the grid be fcentered ..the whole grin a mean
and truncate the overflow on titles
orrrr..
an even better idea
titles can be in a semi transparent overlay over the botom of the image..or top for that matter
..like a .4 opacity approx near black but nit black 333 ish white text
maybe a slight contrasting but brighter color highlight

just an idea just some way to heep the long names from making the grid all weird


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
11 years ago
3,603 posts
Rather than overlaying semitransparent text onto the photo thumbnails (my members are older and can't see that stuff very well)- maybe just set it so the text hotlink only shows a certain number of characters and after that it gets clipped, or an elipse... but the link is still complete and functional?


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
11 years ago
10,149 posts
Strumelia:
Rather than overlaying semitransparent text onto the photo thumbnails (my members are older and can't see that stuff very well)- maybe just set it so the text hotlink only shows a certain number of characters and after that it gets clipped, or an elipse... but the link is still complete and functional?

Yeah transparent text is not what I would recommend. Is this on the gallery page? The "caption" is already truncated - are you talking about the profile name? It only shows the profile and caption (if set).

Hope this helps!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net

updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
gary.moncrieff
gary.moncrieff
@garymoncrieff
11 years ago
865 posts
Brian I have sent you a pm with a link to what I think they are describing.
updated by @garymoncrieff: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
im talking the main gallery grid the grids left justified so theres a empty space at the right at default zoom
then the image name or caption..most of wich dont have anything might be truncated but several wrap to a new line so it just makes the grid look messy especialy once i add a lil styling

i just spent an hour trying to find the template that affects that so i could see if i could center it at least


wich brings me to a suggestion;...a feature request

simular to firebug that alows u to see the html and css a script that loads when logged in as admin so catches right clicks and alows you to view a "what templates this"
or in developer tools an option that turns on a template overlay so items afected by a particular template have an outline around them and a lil text at the top sayintg module + skin + template file + and tells you where to look to edit something
as it is its hard to guess wenther its the skin or a module then within the module wich 1 of a sozen files to try (oddviosly the names give you a hint but itsnot enough )

i cannot figure out wich template would be the 1 that would afect the grid

if there were a temokate id tool for developers it would make editing and developing soooooo much easier and faster
or even if there were just a class name that gave a hint
imean if u saw a class name like gallerygrid on that block_content it would be easy to spot in a template without having to type here i am or help im lost in every template that has a block_content that might contain the grid


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
ps\
i didnt mean transparent text! i meant like niungs profile badges text version had a background opacity option
so the div dontaining the title could overlay ontop of the image with a black background
then you can select an opacity to that overlay...background not text if you want the image seen throgh it still

ofcourge u could also have a set height for the caption feild with anoverflow hidden


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
heres what i mean however my transparency is seyt really low i forget how low maybe like 2.3 even for strums site a 75% or higher opacity will make it easy to read but with just enough of the image visible to vbe seen
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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
11 years ago
3,603 posts
SE I'm afraid I could never read that text, even on my big desktop screen.

Brian, on my main "Images" page, I'm seeing things looking way nicer now that you added the responsive grid layout...no problems for me. I was suggesting for what Soaring was describing, but it sounds like he is still seeing what i USED to see before your updates- with the white space to the right of each image, and just a single column of vertical images from top to bottom.

SE- are you using Ningja skin, and did you update everything? I believe Brian added the 'grid view' yesterday, to more efficiently be able to browse various pictures on the site. Here is what i see on my site:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zP0MGcCZcH4/VGkWnuu5xWI/AAAAAAAAEBM/og_FGpAk0S0/s912/images.jpg


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
nono i see a grid 5 wide maybe 6 i dunno but that grids nit centered within the available space so theres a space to the right not to the left..its just off ballance and u know im a perfectionist down to the pixel so when its slightly off it bothers me

its just the grid itself should be centered within the grid container so when the screen size changes theres a ballance of space on each side of the grid wether the row has 5 3 or 1 item


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
no heres a screenshot of whst i mean
arrow 1 shows the more space on the right then left when zooming out its even more exagerated as this is the max width per row this is default zoom if the entire bolock of rows ..the grid.. was centered within the gallery container it would hbe beautiful

arrows 2-4 show that the bottom space changes wether its just a name, or a name and caption or a name and caption that wraps to a 2nd line

my suggestion would be a set height for the grid item
if the name came above the caption thered be no need to be concerned it would vanish if tye excess caption pushed it below the max height

alternately instead of image br link to title br link to njame
if each was in a div or table cell then that caption can have a set height wether a caption exists or wether its too big to fit wont matter the space for its there..and set in stone unchangable so long captions tuncate and nonexistent ones stil have the space there so the grid looks even top to bottom
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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
if i could find the right template id dr it up to show you how i think it ciuld be improved


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
Strumelia:
SE I'm afraid I could never read that text, even on my big desktop screen.

Brian, on my main "Images" page, I'm seeing things looking way nicer now that you added the responsive grid layout...no problems for me. I was suggesting for what Soaring was describing, but it sounds like he is still seeing what i USED to see before your updates- with the white space to the right of each image, and just a single column of vertical images from top to bottom.

SE- are you using Ningja skin, and did you update everything? I believe Brian added the 'grid view' yesterday, to more efficiently be able to browse various pictures on the site. Here is what i see on my site:
https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-zP0MGcCZcH4/VGkWnuu5xWI/AAAAAAAAEBM/og_FGpAk0S0/s912/images.jpg

not 1 of yours has a caption
your also using a narower layout while mines set to use the full screen width

1 thinjg also i notced whikle dragging my browser naarrower (i know not a proper respinsiveness test) instead of going from 6 rows to 5 then 4 1 image drops below the row

so not sure the grids fully responsive yet

he did throw it together in amazing record time though!
im uber pleased with that
just needs a lil tweaking to perfection

the grid centered gracefully reducing rows as screen width changes ..or i mean colums within rows and standardized space for captions and names


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
gary.moncrieff
gary.moncrieff
@garymoncrieff
11 years ago
865 posts
To be fair if you have modified it to be full width then you will need to add additional padding yourself, as the way Brian set it up, from what I have read works correctly.
updated by @garymoncrieff: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
hmm fair enough but still doesnt adress the issue below the image of thediferent sized gaps


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
and..need to know wich template to add a class name to so i can add padding


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
gary.moncrieff
gary.moncrieff
@garymoncrieff
11 years ago
865 posts
Well not having used that skin I would assume that page is just the jrGallery index.tpl and the images are populated using a jrCore List function, check to see if there is a template defined in that function, if there isn't then its using the default list. If this is the case the images will be of a fixed size I'd imagine and not using the img_scale class.
updated by @garymoncrieff: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
images use the iloutline img-profile
classes
but pretty sure i tried most of the templates in jrgallery
having severe pc issues at the momment so cant do a damn thing till its working corectly (virus most likley takes an hour for programs to run took 2 hours to reboot)
as soon as i can manage ill try those templates again


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
michael
@michael
11 years ago
7,793 posts
I think I understand what your asking,

Take a look at this and see if it helps:
Forum Question: css grid system
updated by @michael: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
my pcs alllll screwed up so that will take an hiur to even start to play (ill watch it when its fixed) i'm certain that i can manage that just coulldtnt find the right template to edit

ah it played ok so that will try to stay 6 across regardless of screen wdth though right


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
michael
@michael
11 years ago
7,793 posts
soaringeagle:....ah it played ok so that will try to stay 6 across regardless of screen wdth though right...

Right.
updated by @michael: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
so it wontg rea,ly be responsive
cause then on a tasblet it might hasve 4 across then 2 below it
instead of being in rows with fixed numbers of items it shouldaddapt all 1 row or block that changes the number of colums as screen sizes narrow
but having i fixed number odf rows before pagination

i think my pcs fixed so let me try to figure it iout if you casn just tell me wich template to klook in ive been trying to find the right 1 with no luck


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
@michael and more important;y @douglas

is this the template that creates the grid
{jrCore_module_url module="jrGallery" assign="murl"}
{if isset($_items)}

    {if $_post.module == 'jrTags'}
        {* for the jrTags module it makes no sense to show a gallery.  Its the image thats tagged, show that.*}
            {foreach $_items as $item}
                <div class="jrgallery_image_grid">
                    <a href="{$jamroom_url}/{$item.profile_url}/{$murl}/{$item._item_id}/{$item.gallery_image_name|urlencode}" title="{$item.gallery_caption|default:$item.gallery_image_name|jrCore_entity_string}">{jrCore_module_function function="jrImage_display" module="jrGallery" type="gallery_image" item_id=$item._item_id size="medium" crop="auto" class="gallery_img iloutline" alt=$item.gallery_title width=false height=false}</a><br>
                </div>
            {/foreach}
    {else}


        {capture name="row_template" assign="template"}
            {literal}
                {jrCore_module_url module="jrGallery" assign="murl"}
                {foreach from=$_items item="item"}
                <a href="{$jamroom_url}/{$item.profile_url}/{$murl}/{$item._item_id}/{$item.gallery_image_name|urlencode}">{jrCore_module_function function="jrImage_display" module="jrGallery" type="gallery_image" item_id=$item._item_id size="small" crop="auto" class="iloutline" alt=$item.gallery_title}</a>
                {/foreach}
                <a href="{$jamroom_url}/{$item.profile_url}/{$murl}/{$item.gallery_title_url}/all"><span style="margin-left:6px;">{jrCore_icon icon="next"}</span></a>
            {/literal}
        {/capture}

        {foreach from=$_items item="item"}
            <div class="item">
                <div class="container">
                    <div class="row">
                        <div class="col10">
                            <div class="jr_gallery_row">
                                <div>
                                    <h2><a href="{$jamroom_url}/{$item.profile_url}/{$murl}/{$item.gallery_title_url}/all">{$item.gallery_title}</a></h2>
                                    {if !empty($item.gallery_description)}
                                        <br>
                                        <span class="normal">{$item.gallery_description}</span>
                                    {/if}
                                </div>
                                <div class="mt10" style="padding-top:0">
                                    {assign var="limit" value="6"}
                                    {if jrCore_is_mobile_device()}
                                        {assign var="limit" value="5"}
                                    {/if}
                                    {jrCore_list module="jrGallery" profile_id=$item._profile_id search1="gallery_title_url = `$item.gallery_title_url`" template=$template order_by="gallery_order numerical_asc" exclude_jrUser_keys="true" exclude_jrProfile_quota_keys="true" limit=$limit}
                                </div>
                            </div>
                        </div>
                        <div class="col2 last">
                            <div class="block_config">

                                {jrCore_item_update_button module="jrGallery" profile_id=$item._profile_id item_id=$item._item_id}
                                {jrCore_item_delete_button module="jrGallery" profile_id=$item._profile_id action="`$murl`/delete_save/`$item.profile_url`/`$item.gallery_title_url`"}

                            </div>
                        </div>
                    </div>

                </div>
            </div>
        {/foreach}
    {/if}
{/if}

i couldn't find the containing block_container so im not sure but thought that mightbe outside the template, this seems..if i understand it correctly to create rows of 6 unless mobile then rows of 5

but that to me doesnt make sence as alot of tablets might only alow rows of 2 ferticly or 3 maybe 4 in lanscape and mobile phones only 1
while most modern desktops with high res would be fine with 6 i just had to boot into safe mode ant took a look at it there and it had a row of 4 then 2 below it

instead a more "graceful' solution would be a centered block, and a single 'row' that wrapped to next row when out of space

ideally theered be a way forthe last "row' to keep the same number of 'colums" as the 1 above but if thats not posible just keeping a finite number of images on a page the last row might have fewer (but be centered)

im not sure thats ideal either but you get what im saying

perhaps the ideal solutions what some call the 'holy grail' layout the 3 column responsive grid that then becomes 2 then 1

and like i said also a set height for the whole block )or item i mean the photo caption and name those 3 items together that div should have a set height so that theres no variation in row heights


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
douglas
@douglas
11 years ago
2,804 posts
If your referring to the Images page for Ningja, there is an issue with it being responsive and we will get it fixed.

Thanks!


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updated by @douglas: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
heres examples
a 2 column layout left sidebar right main content (photos)
http://ww3.dreadlockssite.com/dreadlocks-photos
but more importantly the full page layout
(made this just as a demo for you)
http://ww3.dreadlockssite.com/fullpagegrid
see how when u resize the window it gracefully goes from 4 colums to 2 then 1

its accomplished by a ul li
the li has a width of 25% (for 4 colums) and max width of 400px
so it stats 25% //or 4 colums but is constrained by the max width i think there must be a min width too im not seeing that determines when it changges from 4 to 2 then 1 column
that might be on the ul or the containing div

but i think you get what i mean ..instead of organized as rows its gotto be more fluid and able to re-orgaize itself gracefully

(and stevex i know you said to make my posts shorter but its hard to convey alot ofinfo in fewer words and when you try it just takes a dozen more short posts..and a few extra days to reach an understanding so id rather be detailed as can be get it all down at 1 time and not have to go back and forth for days)


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
douglas:
If your referring to the Images page for Ningja, there is an issue with it being responsive and we will get it fixed.

Thanks!

ah yes i was thnx and yea there is srry i didnt see yoir post till i went into a long detailed description of how rhe responsiveness should work


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
11 years ago
3,603 posts
Well there you go! :)

On ning we almost always get this reply instead:

"Thanks for reporting this! There's now a bug for our engineering team to investigate this issue. Bugs are issued a priority based on the severity of the issue, the number of affected networks, the complexity of the issue, engineering resources available and if there are any workarounds until there is a fix.
Let me know if you have any questions in the meantime.
Thanks for your patience!"


Ba-da-boom.


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updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
11 years ago
3,304 posts
haha remember when the new activity feed came out on 2.0 andit was an absolute mess and i had to publish myown list of "down and dirty bug fixes"

they werent perfect mind you cause the way they had it coded was just a mess but i had to fix it myself then tech others how to as far as i know i still think i was the only 1 offering asolution to the embneds/iframes and the tinymce editor responsiveness
i still dont think they fixed those


these guys here are soooo much better and im guessing they arent wasting 44 millioin in the process


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head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

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