solved Still No Joy With The Network Sharing...

I've been several weeks now trying to get network sharing working. I've written on the forum, I've written to the OneAll company, read the available documentation, and still all I have is Twitter sharing. No Facebook or LinkedIn sharing from the timeline.

Jamroom doesn't really have any have any documentation, no procedure to follow. At the OneAll site they have a procedure written for a different scenario. As if one were needing to create a new app, not add permissions to an existing app.

It is somewhat helpful, but not helpful enough, as I have failed to get it working except on the easier one - Twitter.

Facebook just denied me permissions (see attached) saying I need to show them a screenshot of a successful post, before they give me permission to post, which makes absolutely no sense. How can I post unless they enable the ability? If I could post I wouldn't need to ask them for permission grrrrrr....

I can't get anywhere with LinkedIn after several tries and these are the error messages I see...

Facebook - The provider did not accept the message: you do not have the permission to post on behalf of the user

LinkedIn - The provider did not accept the message, it is incomplete: The link url part [request->sharing_message->parts->link->url] is required for LinkedIn



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Ken Rich
indiegospel.net

updated by @ken-rich: 01/10/15 02:44:34AM

Hi Ken - thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately there is nothing we can do about your Facebook setup - that sounds fairly typical for FB as they certainly want to make it hard for apps to post to a user's wall (and IMO that's not a bad thing).

The LinkedIn one I can check out - we do provide a link URL in the post to OneAll, but not on everything - maybe that's what that error message is about.

(on a side note do people actually use LinkedIn for posting things? Always seemed a resume site to me).


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net

Hi Brian,

They actually do post there (LinkedIn), there is a giant feed it should be showing up on.

I am in contact with Claude at OneAll, he seems to think the LinkedIn error is coming from something the Jamroom module is missing.

What would be helpful on the Facebook error, is if one of you Jamroom "brains" set your own demo site to post there, and wrote down the procedure for us to follow.

It seems to me (if similar to Twitter), the module creates a Facebook app with read-only permission (for log-ins), and then you must add permission to write (post).

However, I'm not sure if I followed their convoluted procedures properly, or am totally "out to lunch" on what is actually required.

I get the feeling I could be going around in circles with them for months if I don't get some expert help from a pro.


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Ken Rich
indiegospel.net

Yeah it is - that's what I indicated above.


The problem with Facebook is that it is going to be different for each user since it all depends on the privacy levels and security they have setup.


I can tell you with 100% certainty that you will always have issues with Facebook - always. They have like ten thousand different ways they do things on their profile, and the EXACT same settings that work on one user will fail for another user.

That's why we only use Facebook for login - not at all for sharing (nor would I). Of course that's my experience and opinion, so take that for whatever it is worth, but what you're going through with Facebook right now is what I would expect based on my experience - and at the "end" of it it will start over on a different issue.


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/10/14 06:50:33AM

Let me just add too that this is all done "on purpose" by Facebook, since they don't want FB users sharing from sites OUTSIDE Facebook, since they then are not in control of the analytics side of it (i.e. they can't continue to add to the marketing profile of YOU that they sell to advertisers, law enforcement, etc.).


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net

I've just uploaded a new version of the OneAll module that now always includes a "link" with every share, so that should (hopefully) fix the LinkedIn issue.

Hope this helps!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net

Thanks Brian. I understand your frustration with Facebook, it's a thousand times worse for developers who spend lots of manhours developing something, only for Facebook to change their protocols and cripple it.

However, it would still be nice for someone who knows what they are doing to write down the procedure(s), as I am unclear if my Facebook issues is self generated by ignorance.


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Ken Rich
indiegospel.net

We'll have to see if we can do that - we've not used it for sharing, so I can't give you a step by step procedure, but we'll try to get that done if we can.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net

Cool... because I'm hitting a "brick wall" on this one, and status updates to Facebook is a strong selling point of the new system to my clients.

My official launch is the 15th and my Ning domain becomes a simple redirect to the JR5 then. It's "sink or swim" time


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Ken Rich
indiegospel.net

I want to be sure you understand that there's nothing you're going to be able to do from your FB app perspective to make it work for all your users - only those users that specifically allow your app access to post will work - anything else and it will fail. There's no setting you can set "globally" to make it work for all your users.

So just an FYI.


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net

Thanks - I understood that part. It's supported, but they have to enable it.

However, for those who do enable it, the thing should work or they will be "miffed" lol.


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Ken Rich
indiegospel.net

OK I just set this up with Facebook and it is working. Make sure you have gone in to your OneAll dashboard -> Social Networks tab -> click on "Facebook" -> make sure the "Publish Actions - Request the permission to post content, comments and likes to a user's stream" is CHECKED.

Then you will need to relink your account to Facebook: Account Settings -> Networks -> Click on the Facebook Icon and choose "unlink". When it closes, click on it again to relink.

I've tested here and it works.

Hope this helps!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net

Wow - can't believe it was something that simple. I was "chasing my tail" over at Facebook when it was a OneAll setting the whole time - D'OH...

I just got LinkedIn working now too so I'm good to go... Thanks so much, I was really "sweating this one...


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Ken Rich
indiegospel.net

updated by @ken-rich: 12/10/14 11:49:04AM

- no problem


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net