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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
talked to a top seo expert (way too expensive to utilize) as far as free advice went he suggested removing home | from the title is that is hurting the title seo score
in the past i had edited something that moved home to after the title, and that only got picked up by google and helped alot but thats no longer the case
on the front page i rather have only the site title no home at all
in sb you can change home to anything else but leaving it blank reverts to home
what i want is the site title only
how do i accomplish this



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updated by @soaringeagle: 01/17/18 03:08:25PM
nate
@nate
7 years ago
917 posts
You can edit the meta.tpl and remove it there. You'll wanna use the template editor.
updated by @nate: 10/01/17 12:59:06PM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
not the best solution
that removes page title universal
it would need an if page= index
<title>{$_conf.jrCore_system_name}</title>
else
<title>{$page_title|default:"`$default_title`"|capitalize} | {$_conf.jrCore_system_name}</title>
but not sure how to write that if statement that checks iif the page is index otherwise uses the defaults

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soaringeagle
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brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,148 posts
Just use jrCore_page_title at the top of your index.tpl file:

{jrCore_page_title title="This will be the page title"}



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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
thnx


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soaringeagle
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
didn't do it ... i put it at the 1st line in the file..right


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soaringeagle
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brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,148 posts
Yes - and you made sure there was not ANOTHER call to jrCore_page_title after it? And reset caches? I know for sure it works - we use it just like that here on jamroom.net.


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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
to be clear i would like only the system name as the page title,
i think if page is index title is system name else title is page title + system name is the only option


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soaringeagle
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brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,148 posts
Then use the system name variable:

{jrCore_page_title title=$_conf.jrCore_system_name}



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updated by @brian: 10/01/17 04:19:59PM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
only 1 heres the 1st few lines
{jrCore_page_title title="Dreadlocks Natural Dreads"}
{assign var="selected" value="home"}
{* Include Header File *}
{jrCore_include template="header.tpl"}

{* Site Builder *}
{if jrCore_module_is_active('jrPanel') && jrCore_module_is_active('jrMenu') && jrCore_module_is_active('jrWidget')}

    <div id="container">

        {* show a panel on this page *}
        {jrPanel_display name="index"}

    </div>

{else}
i reset caches restarted litespeed to clear its cache still get
<html lang="en" dir="ltr">
<head>
<title>Home | Dreadlocks Natural Dreads</title>
when i view source


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soaringeagle
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
that didnt do it either i still havent upgraded my skin though in a long time (on todo list) could it be incompatable with old ningja skin
or something with sb?
does sb use that index.tpl/


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,148 posts
I think there is likely a {jrCore_page_title} call in your meta.tpl file, which is being included by your header.tpl file - so that is being called AFTER the one you've added. To get around this, you need to pass the title into the include. So get rid of the jrCore_page_title you added, and change this:

{jrCore_include template="header.tpl"}

To this:
{jrCore_include template="header.tpl" title="Dreadlocks Natural Dreads"}

Then, in your meta.tpl file change this:
<title>{$page_title|default:"`$default_title`"|capitalize} | {$_conf.jrCore_system_name}</title>

To this:
{if isset($title)}
<title>{$title}</title>
{else}
<title>{$page_title|default:"`$default_title`"|capitalize} | {$_conf.jrCore_system_name}</title>
{/if]

That way you can just add title= to any {include} call for the header and it gets set.


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updated by @brian: 10/01/17 04:26:55PM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
oh crap noow all the template pages are white screens


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soaringeagle
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
entire acp and backend is white screens


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soaringeagle
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brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,148 posts
soaringeagle:
entire acp and backend is white screens

You messed up the template - smarty syntax error. Look in data/logs/error_log for the reason and line number.


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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
no whole sites giving a 500 error i thought 12 page worked but onl;y cvause it was cached


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,148 posts
Undo your changes. Look in data/logs/error_log for the root cause.


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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
id undo the changes if i could access the page to do so


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,148 posts
Did you make the change in the template editor? The template editor should not allow you to save a template that has an error. You'll need to go into your database into the jr_jrcore_template table and mark the template as inactive, then truncate the jr_jrcore_cache table (truncate - not delete).

Let me know if that helps.


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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
i did edit them there


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
i edited them back as they should be and i assumer changing 1 to 0 makes them inacytive i had the front page minus css up only on https not http
argh


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
found the issue but cant get it fixed

[01-Oct-2017 20:19:57 America/New_York] PHP Fatal error:  Uncaught  --> Smarty Compiler: Syntax error in template "file:/var/www/vhosts/dreadlockssite.com/httpdocs/data/cache/jrCore/ea39ab3b40ccd23244902e7857e44db8^sedreadsiteskin4^meta.tpl"  on line 8 "{/if]"  - Unexpected "]", expected one of: "}" <-- 
  thrown in /var/www/vhosts/dreadlockssite.com/httpdocs/modules/jrCore-release-6.1.1/contrib/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_templatecompilerbase.php on line 8
[01-Oct-2017 20:19:57 America/New_York] PHP Fatal error:  Uncaught  --> Smarty Compiler: Syntax error in template "file:/var/www/vhosts/dreadlockssite.com/httpdocs/data/cache/jrCore/ea39ab3b40ccd23244902e7857e44db8^sedreadsiteskin4^meta.tpl"  on line 8 "{/if]"  - Unexpected "]", expected one of: "}" <-- 
  thrown in /var/www/vhosts/dreadlockssite.com/httpdocs/modules/jrCore-release-6.1.1/contrib/smarty/libs/sysplugins/smarty_internal_templatecompilerbase.php on line 8
typo in the closing if


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
ok fixed fixed typo in db it was file not db cache that had to bedeleted


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
all that and still says home | dreadlocks natural dreads


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
made progress diagnosing
domkain/index?repair
brings up a sb page with correct title
but the page is all wrong
/index reverrts to / with wrong title

additionaly adding debug to index.tpl would not bring up debug window till i added /index?repair


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
ok found the problem
modules/jrSiteBuilder/templates/page_container.tpl
1st line
{jrCore_page_title title=$_page.page_title}
{jrCore_include template="header.tpl"}
i thought this
{if isset($title)}
{jrCore_include template="header.tpl" title="Dreadlocks Natural Dreads"}
{else}
{jrCore_page_title title=$_page.page_title}
{jrCore_include template="header.tpl"}
{/if}
would fix it




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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 10/01/17 06:59:33PM
brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,148 posts
lol- didn't know you were using SB.

Site Builder -> Page Config -> Page Settings -> Page Title


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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
i said that from the begining but there ui can only chasnge home to something else
i dont want that title at all only the system name
or, just the title i set minus thje system name..omn the front page only
the system name is the perfect front page title as is


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,148 posts
Then you'll have to do an if/else like I posted above in the site builder template.


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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
i was trying that but now that i think of it i could simply change the system name to the domain and set dreadlocks natural dreads as page title


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,148 posts
You can change it in the template or in the form - up to you - you can set it up however you want.


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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
i'll try it this way with that as page title and domain as site name
just desperately trying to fix some seo issues
this might do the trick


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,148 posts
To be 100% honest - your page title is not an SEO Issue. Your page CONTENT (and h1's) are.


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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
how so/ theres only 1 is it too short?


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soaringeagle
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brian
@brian
7 years ago
10,148 posts
soaringeagle:
how so/ theres only 1 is it too short?

I don't understand what you're asking. I know we've been around this SEO stuff before, and take what I say with a grain of salt - it's just my opinion, but I believe it to be true. Your page STRUCTURE has very little to do with SEO - maybe 2%. the other 98% is getting high quality sites linking TO your high quality content. Everything else is just too easy for "SEO experts" to manipulate, and Google has thus reduced it's importance.


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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
they also recently reduced link value since 99% of seo these days is just throwing thousands of links at it
i do notice pretty big changes in ranking from small changes in the site especialy title


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
this is extremely unusual
can you explain this?
i set the system name to dreadlockssite.com
front page title to dreadlocks natural dreads
the expected result
dreadlocks natural dreads | dreadlockssite.com

loading the page thats what you get

but then google shows dreadlocks natural dreads | philadelphiarainbowfamily.org

how the f is that happening??????????????

i think its related to my other issue with the mapped domains sometimes being pulled up instead but that doesn't explain the system name nor title

somehow i think theres gotta be a bug?


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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michael
@michael
7 years ago
7,715 posts
the url philadelphiarainbowfamily.org isnt loading for me.

suspect what google is showing is for on that domain. just a guess though, what URL are you meaning with "but then google shows dreadlocks natural dreads | philadelphiarainbowfamily.org"?
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
http://www.philadelphiarainbowfamily.org/ that loads fine for me

www.dreadlockssite.com
and it was dreadlocks natural dreads: philadelphiarainbowfamily.org
actually 1st it was dreadlocks natural dreads:philadelphia rainbow family
then dreadlocks natural dreads: philadelphiarainbowfamily.org
then dreadlockssite.com: dreadlocks natural dreads
and now back to dreadlocks natural dreads: philadelphia rainbow family
so its getting part domain
and the : instead of | from nowhere i can find

it might be that googles gone a lil whackadoodle after all the updates


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soaringeagle
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michael
@michael
7 years ago
7,715 posts
Its not loading for me
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
weird
just did that once for me i hit reload and it loaded fine
its never doine that before that time however


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soaringeagle
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Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
7 years ago
3,603 posts
It's not loading for me either.
Here's the error message from Google:

This page isn’t working
www.philadelphiarainbowfamily.org redirected you too many times.
Try clearing your cookies.
ERR_TOO_MANY_REDIRECTS


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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
weird
soo how do i fix it
is it cause it shares the ip with the ssl sites not the shared ip?


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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michael
@michael
7 years ago
7,715 posts
GUESS: probably related to your site being available on http and https better to choose just one location

There is an error related to that in the console when it does load for me:
Cross-Origin Request Blocked: The Same Origin Policy disallows reading the remote resource at https://www.dreadlockssite.com/customdomain/cso. (Reason: CORS header ‘Access-Control-Allow-Origin’ missing).
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
so um solution would be use https even though i dont think sni isnt working?
no i just enabled ssl and i got site noyt secure warning
do i just change the ip?


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
hmm after changing ip but before propegation (ping still returns ssl ip) dreadlockssite.com loads 1st, but in a greyed out ()darker) state thats almost like not responding then philadelphiarainbowfamily.orgh loads


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
try now?
seems to work ok for me on the new ip


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
ugh it worked for a min now getting the default control panel page


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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michael
@michael
7 years ago
7,715 posts
site not secure warnings usually popup when you have an http:// include in the source of your page. so if you have an img src="http://yoursite............image.png" that will cause the page to show not secure.

to fix you change all the http to https and it goes away.
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
ah hmm i did make everything https to avoid the some content not secured issue

but why is it not working (foir you) but is for me on the ssl ip?


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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michael
@michael
7 years ago
7,715 posts
This url is still visible to me:
http://www.dreadlockssite.com/

Try turning ON the setting at
ACP -> MODULES -> USERS -> USERS -> GLOBAL CONFIG -> SITE SETTINGS -> Create SSL URLs
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
it is
but its the profile domains
www.philadelphiarainbowfamily.org and www.rainbowgatheringmusic.org that are not working right (for you but are for me)
giving redirection errors
even though for me they work fine
heres the thing though
they are on the same ip as the ssl dreadlockssite.com
should they be on the non ssl ip/
if so then i need to change some urls i guess in templates


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
hmm symptom, i just found
on 1st load it came up (rainbowgatheringmusic.org) with redirect error with a http://www.rainbowgatheringmusic.org/_map=b8718c53b3ac2675c40681d2e0fc0932 url

that caused redirect error then i hit reload and it loaded just fine

i think i know what the issue might be but ewil have to test it late tonight
weeks ago you had me remove the domains and replace them. to try fixing the mixed up way the philadelphiarainbow page showed up as facebook preview for dreadlockssite
i think afyter replacing the domains, i actualy had to reboot the server , not just restart litespeed but a full reboot.
i'll test that tonight then if you can try the urls tomorow that would be great


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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michael
@michael
7 years ago
7,715 posts
the HTTPS site does work for me, but the http site also works for me. That suggests that that setting
ACP -> MODULES -> USERS -> USERS -> GLOBAL CONFIG -> SITE SETTINGS -> Create SSL URLs

Is not turned on, because if it was turned on, then it would redirect to the https site.

Maybe try copying the .htaccess file from the latest copy of jamroom up to your site. Its a long shot, but maybe something in there is not configured correct.
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updated by @michael: 10/14/17 02:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
is the 2 profile domains working/
and remember i have severalo optionsd checked that are not taking right like 1 video conversion worker selected but 2 are used
there was another thing i cant remember whhat, but checking or unchecking the option mkade no diference.

ill try unchecking and rechecking that and the htaccess should be the same from newest core
but ill download the fresh core to be sure


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soaringeagle
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
replaced htacces
but hes something odd
it used to be that if i removed the s from https it would appear logged out
now whether enable ssl url redirections checked or not i stay in a logged in state whether im on secured or not pages


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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michael
@michael
7 years ago
7,715 posts
if you have this setting ON you should be redirected to the https page if you visit the http page:
ACP -> MODULES -> USERS -> USERS -> GLOBAL CONFIG -> SITE SETTINGS -> Create SSL URLs

If there is still a problem with the profile domain, try deleting it, then re-adding it.
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
that setging is on but it is not redirecting
also i have deleterd and replaced the profile domains
they work for me thats why i asked if you can check and see if they now work for you or not


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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michael
@michael
7 years ago
7,715 posts
it is redirecting to dreadlocks site for me now.
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
weiiird
any idea why?


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
for me i got the redirection error with the long _map=a6ca26c5f160eb479ac8713f549ec28f
string then i click try again and it works


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soaringeagle
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michael
@michael
7 years ago
7,715 posts
I still think its a problem with your .htaccess file because I can still visit
http://www.dreadlockssite.com/

and not be redirected to the https version, as for why I don't know.
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
i downloaded a fresh core and uploaded the htaccess replacing whats there
thats why i dont understand whats going on


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
but remember i have several settings (like vid conversion workers) that are nopt taking the settings properly
i have it set to 1 worker yet 2 are active

what can i check in the db to ensure the setting is set right


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soaringeagle
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
found force_url in db
it said off i changed to on.. still the same prob


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
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michael
@michael
7 years ago
7,715 posts
soaringeagle:
found force_url in db
it said off i changed to on.. still the same prob

Which is SOOOO weird because it sounds like what you have is the settings set in the ACP are not effecting their values in the database.
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
7 years ago
3,304 posts
not so sure about that since the video conversion workers says 1 in db and in settings yet i get 2 active workers
i dont know whats going on


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

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