solved admins can't delete/edit Forum stuff after updates.

This has just started happening today, I noticed it after today's updates. I haven't done anything in my site code or skins, aside from applying todays' jr updates.
It's only happening on my fotmd.com site, not on my other (whistle) site.

When signed in as either master admin or a profile admin, I'm suddenly no longer getting two of the button options when hovering over Forum threads and posts (profile forum, site-wide) to either: Delete (trashcan) or Edit (gear). I'm now only getting the quote (speech bubble) icon when hovering. Have no ability to delete or edit Forum posts now.
Note that this has NOT effected Group discussions, where I still get all three hover icons as expected. I also get the usual expected icons on things like video Comments.

It's only happening for Forum posts, and only on my live site (fotmd.com)
This happening for me on FF, Safari, and Chrome,... Happening on my Win desktop and on my iPad too.
Doesn't go away when i switch to my prior custom skin from a few weeks ago, either.

i ran integ check and cache etc.


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Migrated from Ning to Jamroom June 2015
updated by @strumelia: 04/28/17 04:43:15PM

Same thing happening to me after update, using cloned Ninja skin.

try logging out and back in again.

Log out and in didn't help.

The problem seems to lie with the new Enable Edit Protection, with it set to Off (default) the edit/delete options are disabled, enable this option and they reappear.

Where do I find the Enable Edit Protection setting?


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ACP -> Profiles -> Forum -> Global Config.

Admins should always be able to edit a post - have just checked it here and I see it working.


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
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With it turned off for me Brian, admin cant see the edit/delete in forum, only when I enable this setting. Maybe I am misreading the setting however.

With it turned off it should function like it did before. What skin are you using?

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net

I found a way this could happen and have fixed it in Forum 2.1.1 - update and you should be good.

Hope this helps!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
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Controls now show regardless of setting to admins, which is how I read it should be ie. (If enabled users wont be able to edit/delete posts after 24 hours, admin control always available regardless), thanks . I am using a custom skin based on MediaPro btw.

Thanks for the quick bug fix! My icons are showing again for ADMINS.... this particular issue is now working as it should.

But....
-Could someone please test if this 'edit protection' feature is working though?: - I've got the option checked/Yes for "If this is checked, then 24 hours after a forum topic or follow up is posted, the user will no longer be able to edit or delete the topic." .....but (for me anyway) when I'm logged in as a regular member I still am getting the Edit/Delete icons showing for me on my weeks-old forum posts. Did integ check/cache etc. (My active skin is custom built from ningja.) -Anyone else having this happening?
Thanks for checking on this.


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The profile owner and profile admins will always be able to edit a post.

Let me know if that helps.


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net

I do get it about the Admins always being able to edit everything. But when you say 'the profile owner will always be able to ..." that seems to contradict the option description of "24 hours after a forum topic or follow up is posted, the user will no longer be able to edit or delete the topic."
This confuses me... can you please clarify for me- what exactly does the checkbox option do, then?


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The option is there to prevent users that participate in a thread from coming back at a later point and deleting their responses, thereby making the thread irrelevant. Profile admins and profile owners should always be able to delete a topic or response since they have an interest in maintaining the forum.

Let me know if that helps.


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net

Brian when you say "profile owners"- are you meaning the profile forum owner.. as in my case the profile I created called "forums" that 'owns' the site-wide Forum I use? OR, do you mean simply whatever member/profile created the individual forum discussion in question?


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So checking the option applies the control only to non-admin members who respond to someone else's thread in a forum? What about when the regular member CREATES a thread in the forum? will they continue to be able to edit or delete that whole thread by deleting their original/first post?


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Profile Owner = the "owner" of the profile. For example - THIS forum that we are typing in is "owned" by The Jamroom Network. I am a profile owner of this profile - you are not. 24 hours after YOU post something, you will no longer be able to remove it or change it.

Let me know if that clarifies it. I apologize if it is a confusing setting - I will revisit the help for the setting and try to ensure ot does a better job of being very clear on who it is applied to.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net

Ok so by "profile owners"...in this situation what is meant is the profile(s) that 'own' the forum being posted in. The "profile forum owner" as i understand.

That means that when I ask: "What about when the regular member CREATES a thread in the forum? will they continue to be able to edit or delete that whole thread by deleting their original/first post?" - if that 'regular member' does not own the site-wide profile forum or the forum where they posted a new discussion... then if the option box is checked, then after 24 hours that member will NOT be able to delete even their OWN discussion (by deleting the first post of their discussion)...in any forum they do not 'own'. Is that correct?


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Sorry about this - I'm doing a really horrible job of explaining things.

1) Profile Owners and Site Admins ONLY will be able to edit or delete a topic OR a followup on an existing topic if it has been more than 24 hours.

2) Regular Users - that is users who are creating a NEW topic or a FOLLOW UP to an existing topic on a profile forum that is NOT on their profile (i.e. NOT OWNED BY THEM) only have up to 24 hours to either delete or edit their topic or follow up to an existing topic.

When it comes to this setting both a NEW topic created by a user who is NOT the owner of the forum OR a followup to an EXISTING topic on a forum that they are NOT an owner of are treated the SAME.

They have 24 HOURS to edit or delete - after they they will no longer be able to.

If that doesn't make sense - please let me know the specific part of what I have posted that is NOT clear.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net

YES.


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net

This is the new help that will go out in the next forum release:


Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 01/28/17 12:04:07PM

Thanks, that helps Brian!

The part that is now still confusing when read (to me anyway) is where you say:
"1) Profile Owners and Site Admins ONLY will be able to edit or delete a...."
-confusing only because I'd be assuming that ALL registered members of a site are 'profile owners'...they all own their own profile.
So If I had to suggest a change in wording to make it dummy-proof for folks like me, I would simply change that to maybe read something like:
"1) Profile Forum Owners and Site Admins ONLY will be able to edit or delete a..."


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My concern here is that we've descended into "legalese" and have just muddied everything. This is what the setting does:


If you're unsure of what a "profile owner" is let me know.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 01/28/17 12:07:30PM

Just my two cents, but I would change that to:

If this is checked, then 24 hours after a forum post is made, users who are NOT the profile forum owner or a Profile Admin will no longer be able to edit or delete the forum post.


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Sorry - I'm not saying "A" profile owner - I'm saying "THE" owner of the profile the FORUM lives on...


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 01/28/17 12:08:55PM

So the confusion is that I'm saying "profile owner" and NOT "owner of the profile the forum is on". Easy enough - will change that.


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net

Perfect! YES, the above is different from what you posted earlier, and it's good...perfectly clear as written above! (users who are not the forum owner or a.... that's good!)


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updated by @strumelia: 01/28/17 12:12:24PM