Simple Chat Jamroom 6 - Audible Notification

Jeff Gilder
Jeff Gilder
@jffgldr
8 years ago
69 posts
Newbie here. Just migrated one of my Ning sites and upgraded to JR 6. Added Simple Chat. Does anyone know if there is a way to add an audible notification to Simple Chat?


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Thank you!
Jeff
Running JR6 with Follow Me on one JamRoom Network and JR6 and ISkin on another - Migrated From Ning. LOVE JamRoom!

updated by @jffgldr: 03/02/17 08:51:36AM
michael
@michael
8 years ago
7,714 posts
if you type:
:page michael
an audible notification chime will sound on michaels computer
Jeff Gilder
Jeff Gilder
@jffgldr
8 years ago
69 posts
Thanks Michael. Got any idea if there are plans (or a way) to implement an automatic chime. Not so much for this network, but we're getting ready to migrate 2 more nings that have heavy chat users during our live talk radio broadcasts. I'm using this migration to "practice" for the next (larger) network. Loving it so far.


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Jeff
Running JR6 with Follow Me on one JamRoom Network and JR6 and ISkin on another - Migrated From Ning. LOVE JamRoom!
brian
@brian
8 years ago
10,148 posts
jffgldr:
Thanks Michael. Got any idea if there are plans (or a way) to implement an automatic chime. Not so much for this network, but we're getting ready to migrate 2 more nings that have heavy chat users during our live talk radio broadcasts. I'm using this migration to "practice" for the next (larger) network. Loving it so far.

Can you let me know what you mean by "automatic" chime? Do you mean when a user becomes active in a chat room?

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
8 years ago
3,603 posts
It's a little 'ding' type simple sound every time someone posts in the chat room. So if you leave your desk to get a cup of coffee for a while, you can hear if somebody comes on the chat and posts a new chat message. Should have its own volume and on/off control ideally, so you can keep your normal computer sound set as usual but don't have to hear the little beeping all the time if you don't want it on.


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paul
@paul
8 years ago
4,326 posts
It already does this. Turn on notifications in your browser.


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Jeff Gilder
Jeff Gilder
@jffgldr
8 years ago
69 posts
Brian - yes this is what I'm asking about.
@strumelia - exactly
Paul - I'm not seeing a way to turn on this notification. Please help. Chat notifications are on and working for my other networks, but this one is not...and it is not obvious (to me) how to enable it. thanks very much for your help.


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Jeff
Running JR6 with Follow Me on one JamRoom Network and JR6 and ISkin on another - Migrated From Ning. LOVE JamRoom!
brian
@brian
8 years ago
10,148 posts
There is no "enabling" needed - it is already supported. You just need to type:

:page brian

while you are in a chat room that brian has access to and it will "chime" me at my computer.

There is no support at this time for users entering a room to have it "chime". It's something we can look into, but it's a bit tricky since there's really no "entering" or "leaving" a chat room in Simple Chat.


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
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Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
8 years ago
3,603 posts
Thanks!
But let me try to describe this better- It's not 'paging' that we are referring to. I believe that the majority of chat programs these days have a chime that makes a ding type sound if you set it to 'on'...which makes a sound on your computer each time anyone posts a message in the chat room. (whether they enter or were already there). I have quite a few members who turn the chat on, see that there is no one actively there, then go about their morning til they hear the notification chime when somebody else has woken up and starting a chat post like for example posting "Good morning, anyone up yet?". Then the others come over to their computer and start chatting. It's like their little morning or night time chat club they all look forward to. It's something that a certain set of my members really love on my music/friendship based site. :)


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brian
@brian
8 years ago
10,148 posts
We developed simple chat around our use case - as a replacement for Skype. Skype does not chime every time there is a new message, nor (to be honest) is it something any of us would want. I could see that being really annoying, really quickly. However, that's us :)

I just want everyone to know what is supported NOW, at this time, in the module.

So we can take that down as a feature request for a future release though.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
Jeff Gilder
Jeff Gilder
@jffgldr
8 years ago
69 posts
Thanks Brian. That you will consider it is sufficient. The 2 networks that we're currently about to migrate over to Jamroom will most certainly expect chat notifications...because they have been used to that for the past 9 years. We have a very active chat group during our live shows....it has become a major part of the engagement for us. As for the "annoyance" factor....most chat systems have a way to turn it off an on...and / or adjust the volume. The NING chat even allows us to customize the tone by uploading our own audio file. Thanks for your time and consideration.


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Jeff
Running JR6 with Follow Me on one JamRoom Network and JR6 and ISkin on another - Migrated From Ning. LOVE JamRoom!
brian
@brian
8 years ago
10,148 posts
It seems a like a feature multiple users are going to request, so let me ask some follow up questions so I'm clear on what's being looked for:

1) The current Simple Chat does already have per message notifications. It uses the Web Notifications API built in to the browser - so when a user posts a new message you'll see a notification in your OS that a new message has been posted. Depending on your browser/OS, this usually is in the upper right corner of your screen (at least it is on Mac with Chrome or FF). We felt this was the best type of notification setup, since it allows the user full control. Is this good enough or must there also be a sound?

2) If there IS a sound that plays, let's imagine a public chat room with 50 people in it all talking away. How do we deal with 1, 2 5 or 10 new messages that all come in at the same time? I'm assuming that you would want per-chat audio controls which increases the complexity significantly, degrades the user experience and gets us into corner case situations where the user could be bombarded by sounds when they are not expecting it.

This is one of those features I can see that starts out as a simple "idea" but turns into a much more complex setup as we have to account for the different use cases and settings that a user might need to "manage" their sounds.

Let me know what you think.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
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Jeff Gilder
Jeff Gilder
@jffgldr
8 years ago
69 posts
Brian,
Yes, I can see and appreciate your concern. I know my crowd will expect a sound, because that is what they've become accustomed to. I am completely OK with giving this a go with the existing notifications and the ability to : Page Member feature.
We normally have between 20 and 50 folks on chat and use a goat bleat for the tone (seriously) on one of the networks...lol. We use a revving race engine on the other. That does become annoying at times and some folks do turn them off. The tone is more for letting someone who may be surfing the web during the show know there's a new chat response. On the other hand....when one hears a constant flow of chimes it lets them know there's a lot of activity and attracts more users. On our existing NINGs the chat and chimes are only experienced by those logged into the site.
I appreciate your consideration.


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Thank you!
Jeff
Running JR6 with Follow Me on one JamRoom Network and JR6 and ISkin on another - Migrated From Ning. LOVE JamRoom!

updated by @jffgldr: 11/29/16 11:29:09AM
brian
@brian
8 years ago
10,148 posts
jffgldr:
Brian,
Yes, I can see and appreciate your concern. I know my crowd will expect a sound, because that is what they've become accustomed to. I am completely OK with giving this a go with the existing notifications and the ability to : Page Member feature.
We normally have between 20 and 50 folks on chat and use a goat bleat for the tone (seriously) on one of the networks...lol. We use a revving race engine on the other. That does become annoying at times and some folks do turn them off. The tone is more for letting someone who may be surfing the web during the show know there's a new chat response. On the other hand....when one hears a constant flow of chimes it lets them know there's a lot of activity and attracts more users. On our existing NINGs the chat and chimes are only experienced by those logged into the site.
I appreciate your consideration.

Thanks for the update. With JR's Simple Chat, users must be logged in before they can chat - there's no visitor chat capabilities. Right now the sound is a small .mp3 file in jrChat/contrib/chime/chime.mp3 - we can look at a way to make that customizable in a future release.

So right now if a user is NOT looking at chat and is surfing the web, if a user posts a new message in chat they will see a desktop notification that a new message has been posted. While it doesn't play a sound, it does work well to let you know that there are new items in the chat.

Check it out and play with it a bit and see how it works for you.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
Jeff Gilder
Jeff Gilder
@jffgldr
8 years ago
69 posts
Cool!


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Jeff
Running JR6 with Follow Me on one JamRoom Network and JR6 and ISkin on another - Migrated From Ning. LOVE JamRoom!
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
8 years ago
3,603 posts
" if a user posts a new message in chat they will see a desktop notification that a new message has been posted. While it doesn't play a sound, it does work well to let you know that there are new items in the chat. "

Can someone post a screenshot of such a 'desktop notification', so i can get a better idea of what that means?
Thanks!


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michael
@michael
8 years ago
7,714 posts
here's one.

The program in the screenshot is GIMP my image editor that I used to create the screenshot. Firefox is off with the chat open in the not active tab. I sent a message from a different PC and the alert popped up as a system alert with a chi-ri-rin sound.
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
8 years ago
3,603 posts
Johnny Depp wants to chat with me? lolol...

So does this pop up every time any member posts a new chat message, IF one is logged onto the chat? Or does it only happen if a member 'pages' me on chat?

Thanks... :)


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michael
@michael
8 years ago
7,714 posts
if you have chat open, but are on another tab you will get a notification.
if you have chat closed and are on another tab, you wont.

To page someone on chat type:
:page strumella
and you will get a notification from me.