page created in sb (old version) only shows up when logged in

this page https://www.dreadlockssite.com/set-up-your-own-shop
gives you a 404 when logged out, but shows up when logged in
additionally i still cannot use the new sb or ningja skins cause the sb buttons don't show up and the forced use of a container causes a double styling issue
example
the styling of the area with the h1 tag or the activity feed show up within a styling of item:1st of type
the h1 tag area should not be forced to be within an item 1st of type
but is
the activity feeds placed inside an item that doesn't need to be there
we should be able to add the tabbed or vertical continers wo a widget space and not be forced to use them
like the old version allowed


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/22/16 11:55:59AM

The issue has probably been fixed in the latest version of Site Builder. The best thing I would suggest is to clone a current skin, then port your changes to the new skin. It might be easier that way than trying to adjust your current skin for the changes that have been made.

straight up, the old version of sitebuilder isn't going to get updates going forward, the new one will. So its better to get onto that one.

that's how i always do it
but as i said i cant get sb to work at all
ive been begging for help to get it to work for months now
i have tried so many times


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

i see theres a new sb update
i'll give it 1 more shot


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

in the error console i get "permission denied to access property "document""
and
"permission denied to access property "tostring""


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 03/21/16 04:28:12PM

From the forums we can only really address a problem at a time, not "it all doesnt work" problems because there is nowhere to start.

This thread too, it states a problem but not how to reproduce the problem so I can setup to check it out then there are like three other issues about separate things. It makes it hard to get the thread to 'solved' status.

The new updates to the Site Builder system do not have any new updates to the import system for importing data. The updates will have no new results for what your after I'm afraid.

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When doing what?

Love seeing issue reports in this type of format:
It makes it easy for me to check out the issue and provide some possible solution.

ok i created a page in sb old version since new version does not work
i went to a diferent browser logged out got a 404 not found
i logged in, the page worked
i cleared and disabled sever caching i cleared the data/cache folder manually and the page continues to say not found unless logged in

i expected the same results as every other page i created in sb it to be visible whether logged in or out


actual, it only shows when logged in

additional info
maybe unrelated maybe not
when checking the code for the widget to see if there might be anything in the code causing it, it replaced my containing div and classes with a p and, additionally applied the classes i had applied to the div to every p
it took 3 tries to correct that as it kept replacing them when id save


final notes because i am still having issues with sb new version i may require more help updating to it
the issues with sb new version are
the page edit buttons do not show up
every widget gets double styling because its forced to be within a containing div that is styled if theres a way to rename that containing item to widgetcontainer or something that should solve that but the buttons still do npt show up so i cannot use the sbo additionally, there are 2 empty menu items that are there .. you see the styling around where the buttons should be but nothing inside them
they are on either side of the home button

All the issues i am having with sb core are the same issues i have had with it since early beta
at one point you had tried to get it to work and told me to just remove 1 class name but that only marginally helped it was still a mess


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

great explanation, thanks.

The old site builder is not being worked on and there will be no updates to the old version.

How about we look at the "...since new version does not work..." part of it. What about the new version 'does not work'?

When you enable a default skin and have the old site builder version disabled, what happens? The old site builder and the new site builder systems can not be on the same site at the same time, when you install the new site builder it should shut down the old site builder modules.

cool, lets take it one issue at a time. maybe on a dev server is best because I know you're site is live.

* the page edit buttons do not show up. (great, clear issue that we can solve. thanks.)
* every widget gets double styling. (another clear issue that we can solve. thanks.)
* 2 empty menu items

make a thread for each of these and we'll tackle each issue individually.

Lets start with the "page edit buttons don't show up" because they need to.

ok ill make a thread about each issue separately then


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities

nice one, thanks. Lets tackle each one individually until we can solve it.

If you can zip the latest skin you're using and send it to me, I can see if I can any obvious steps to make it easier.

OK


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities