Feature request - Finding active ex-Ning members (Still) in default quota

I transferred my Ning community to JR.

My default member quota is fairly restrictive and I actively encourage members to change quotas to reflect their basic interest in being a member of the community.

Some members have reported difficulty in seeing the change quota pop-up on their account page. I thought I had got this fixed but I am not entirely sure that this is the case.

One way to do this might be to put the quota name in a tooltip in the mouseover hover on the profile name in the user account browser.
updated by @claygordon: 03/21/15 03:37:12PM

Do you mean in the Profile Browser? Users are not tied to quotas - only profiles are.


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net

Quotas for what? Of what?

I am new to jamroom, and have seen mention of 'quotas' in more than one place, but no mention what the term means in each context.

Presumably 'quota' refers to different things for different activities (as in the fish quota set for people catching fish).


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PJ Matthews, Kyoto
Migrated from Ning 2.0. Now at Jamroom 6 beta and using Jamroom Hosting for The Research Cooperative (researchcooperative.org)

PS - eventually, when enough naive questions like this have been asked, it might be good to have a glossary page defining special terms often used in Jamroom.


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PJ Matthews, Kyoto
Migrated from Ning 2.0. Now at Jamroom 6 beta and using Jamroom Hosting for The Research Cooperative (researchcooperative.org)

Quotas are basically different account types, ie. Artist Quotas, Members Quotas etc.

https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/documentation/getting-started/693/the-jamroom-quota-system

And there are Docs for JR5 already setup, although we are still adding to them.

https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/documentation


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Douglas Hackney
Jamroom Team - Designer/Developer/Support
FAQ-Docs-Help Videos

Great Idea! Here it is:

"Glossary"
https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/documentation/getting-started/2568/glossary

Which other terms are you un-clear on?

Dear Michael,

Thanks for that (good to see the Glossary), but the explanation for quota is still not understandable to me!

In my experience with online networks, profiles belong to people, groups or organisations, i.e. members of a network. I understand that members have access to fixed amounts (quotas) of one or more things. These could be things like storage space in the network, number of questions they can ask Jamroom support in a given period, number of videos they can upload with a video module, number of photos they can upload in photo module, or number of modules they can have access to through their profile, or according to the membership status.

Quotas generally refer to predetermined quantities that are produced or used or consumed.

If different members are given access to different modules (i.e. if not all members are equal), then it would be understandable to say that they have different "module access rights", or "module access privileges", based on the aims of the network and how it is managed.

To say that "a profile can only belong to 1 quota at a time" makes no sense in human terms, from the user (profile owner) perspective.

If the number of fish I am allowed to catch is 100 in one day, I do not belong to the quota, the quota belongs to me. That is my quota to use or not use, as I wish or need or can.

Cheers, Peter

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From the glossary

Quota
Refers to the grouping system within Jamroom that allocates what resources are available to use for profiles.

Each profile can only belong to 1 quota at a time. The modules each have a "Quota Config" tab to allow the admin to set which quotas can use the module.

eg:
* Only users in the "Quota Name Here" Quota can use the Blog module.
* Users who pay for a subscription move to the "Paid Members Quota" and get to use these extra modules....
- See more at: https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/documentation/getting-started/2568/glossary#sthash.asbT0ymJ.dpuf


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PJ Matthews, Kyoto
Migrated from Ning 2.0. Now at Jamroom 6 beta and using Jamroom Hosting for The Research Cooperative (researchcooperative.org)
updated by @researchcooperative: 02/18/15 05:37:24AM

Hi Peter
I understand your take on quota definition but unfortunately "a profile can only belong to 1 quota at a time" is the way Jamroom works.
You can create as many quotas as you like, for instance "Song Quota", "Video Quota", "Song and Video Quota" with the Jamroom audio and video modules enabled appropriately per quota, then profiles allocated to a quota according to their privelidges.
hth
Paul


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist

Your issue is with the wording. Its probably valid. Try to think of it as not the user being allocated the resources, but the profile directly. There is no direct relationship between the user and the quota.

There is a direct relationship between the user and the profile.
There is a direct relationship between the profile and the quota.

Its the profile's quota of modules. Of which there are only 1 of any particular module, so its a has:has_not relationship.

Profiles in the "First Quota" are allocated these modules:
* audio
* video
* blog

Profiles in the "Second Quota" are allocated these modules:
* audio
* forum
* tickets

then 'user A' might have one profile which is in the "First Quota" and another profile which is in the "Second Quota".

--edit--
This document tries to explain the concept:

"Concepts the admin user needs to know"
https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/documentation/getting-started/2167/concepts-the-admin-user-needs-to-know
updated by @michael: 02/18/15 12:12:37PM

I think the way I look at these is by thinking of them as categories and these categories have sub categories which are the modules in those.

So if we imagine we have an entertainers quota then say a general quota, these we could call Profile Categories. So we have two main categories to start with.

Profile Categories = Entertainers & General.

Next we want to give these profile categories some things to use in them so we can add some subcategories to them ( modules )
Lets say for the entertainers category we want that category to have music, video & blog.
And for the general we want to add, forum, blog, photos.

So now we have two main profile categories with some subcategories.

So these in quota terms would be one quota is the entertainers quota and the other would be the general quota.

So an entertainer joins your site so they ( or you ) select the entertainer quota, so in that profile on their menu they will see: Music Video Blog as these are the modules we added to that category ( quota )

So if a user joins your site and is just a normal user then they might choose the general category ( quota ) and they will have on their menu: Forum Blog Photos.

Ok so now if you have allowed members to create more than one profile they can now do something like this.

Suppose an user joins and is an entertainer so they have chosen the entertainers category ( quota ) so they can add something about them and show some music etc or whatever they want to add. This member may also want to participate in the site also as a general member. So they would create another profile and select the general category ( quota ). Now this member has two profiles on your site which each have different options for them to use in their profiles menu whichever profile they want to post information to.

So in summary this ONE member now has two profiles of which each profile has different options to use to post items to the site. They are the same account holder but just using two different profiles depending on the content they want to post. In the members profils listing they will list as two different profiles. This works well because lets say you create another tab to list the entertainers. So you would have one list of general profiles and another for alist of the entertainers.


Another way to use the quota system would be for let's say admin privilages, so you would set up a quota giving special modules and access options for a admins quota. So an admin could have two quota profiles one for their admin side and one for thier general useage side.

And finally you might decide to have diffferent levels of membership and this is also another way to use quotas. So you may have three types of level
Basic
Member
VIP Member

So these would be your main categories ( quotas ) and next you would add some subcategories ( modules ) for each of these giving each memberships level more modules to use.

Well that's my way in looking at the quota system as when I first started using Jamroom the name 'quota' had me a little puzzled until I looked at it this way.