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paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
If you are thinking of migrating from Ning to Jamroom, we are still looking for a few Ning sites to do the migration with as a way of beta testing the process and ironing out any final issues.
Please post here if you interested in helping us out in this way.
Thanks
Pa



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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 07/09/16 09:21:02AM
jkn
@jkn
10 years ago
7 posts
I'm very interested in migrating. Also, a 20+ year IT / Data Analyst by day - so that might help a bit. site: http://relaxedmachinery.ning.com
updated by @jkn: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
im very interested in early test migration
i dont have the experience of the above poster but have plenty of web design experience not php though html and especialy css
website http://www.dreadlockssite.com
the archive was incomplete groups and discussions failed 1/2 way through with "unable to write to this location choose another and retry"
i tried again on a brand new empty 2 tb drive with same results at same spot
nings attempting to download it for me
in the meantime im uploadingthe data now its taking 3 days so far
the test sites www.greentechnologyforums.com
this is a temporary test domain once im familiarized with jr and im happywith the design ill download a fresh archive and recreate on the www.dreadlockssite.com domain

i curreenly have a 3.00 ning http://ww3.dreadlockssite.com
i am hoping i can recreate a simular style although im always up for the challenge of recreating a whole new fresh style

the datas 3/4 uploaded and im hoping its done in the next 24 hours finally


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
jkn:
I'm very interested in migrating. Also, a 20+ year IT / Data Analyst by day - so that might help a bit. site: http://relaxedmachinery.ning.com

Hi - Thanks for posting.
How big is your Ning site?
Please read though the Ning2Jamroom document at https://www.jamroom.net/ning-to-jamroom/documentation/ning2jamroom so as to understand the import process.
You would need to set up a Jamroom site on some hosting somewhere (we can help with the setup if need be), create an archive of your Ning site and upload that archive to the Jamroom installation, after which we could do the import for you.
Or, as an IT/Data Analyst, you may feel confident to continue with the import yourself following the documentation, which would be a help to us as it would test our documentation as well as the import process.
What do you think?


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
Hi @soaringeagle - Thanks for posting
As with @jkn above, I'd suggest that first you read the import documentation so as to understand the process.
I see that at www.greentechnologyforums.com you have already uploaded the Jamroom Core but that it now needs installing. Do you need any help with that? If so, send your site FTP and cPanel logins to support[at]jamroom[dot]com so that I can check it out and do the install for you if you want?


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
ps
upgraded to dedicated server since the vps and cloud servers topped out at 160 gigs and already used 110 for other sites and the site data was 150
now i got 8000 mp3s and about 2000 vids
the vids are nearly all embeds only 333 uploads the uploAd limits were 10 min and 100m the embeds many are 15-20 min a few up to 2 hours with hd
are embeds turned into mpeg4 too
would you estimate i might go over the 2tb even on just the test
if embeds are converted i might need to add a drive right away


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
When you talk about embedded videos you mean like YouTube?
Jamroom can handle embedded YouTube and Vimeo videos and providing the import script can extract the relevant IDs from your embed code, it will create a similar Jamroom embedded videos where the actual stream comes from YT or Vimeo.
So to answer your question, the embedded videos will not take any significant amount of your server disk space.


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
ah ok good that was my primary worry
ok i should be ready for a test migration once the ftp uploads complete
1 more question
is there a way that once i do a redesign and build a new site structure as well as style that that can be moved to the new domaikn and just the new data be imported?


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
Actually, moving a Jamroom site is pretty easy. See https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/documentation/howto/1077/howto-change-the-jamroom-directory-or-domain

If you are actually moving servers, as well as moving the files over, you would also need to export, then import the Jamroom database as well.

Any structure and style changes made on Jamroom are made either in the templates, or are saved on the database, dependent upon how the changes are made, but either way, when doing the move as described above, they will follow the Jamroom.

Can I politely ask that any questions like this are asked in a new thread in the 'Questions About Jamroom' category? That way, we can keep threads 'on topic' which makes things easier to find and track for us all down the road :-)
Thanks


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
ofcourse


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
jkn
@jkn
10 years ago
7 posts
I'm happy to be the documentation guinea pig and bug you when I get stuck. Thanks!
updated by @jkn: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
Cool. Thanks @jkn


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
same although i cant write js or jquery if my lidfe depended oln it i can often debug decoconstruct and get lucky with rewriting and same goes for php to a degree and i have beta tested every single feature of both ning 2 and 3 and probly caught more bugs then anyone due to my eye fir detail and many of them fixed long before the nung folks could fix them (if they could be fixed witgh css that is)
im definately more of a artists then prtogrammer when it comes to site design i get way into styling of every detail and it drives me crazy when i cant getthings right down to a single pixel


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
10 years ago
3,603 posts
Hi Paul, I wrote you a couple days ago. I am going to be getting some help in the process from my friend Troy, and Troy and I would like to test moving my Ning 2.0 site to JR. Troy may have gotten in touch with you already. Thanks, meanwhile I will be reading the info you linked to in order to get acquainted with things.
I successfully made a complete archive of my network several weeks ago but will now be making a fresh copy which will take a couple days as you know. I would like top be part of this beta process, based on what you have written me so far.
My musician based ning 2.0 site is 5 yrs old with 4000 members: http://mountaindulcimer.ning.com/
Many many thanks to the JR team for creating a ning importer tool. I'm excited to see what we can do about hopefully creating a new home for my members.


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...just another satisfied Jamroom customer.
Migrated from Ning to Jamroom June 2015
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
This is great.
As soon as any of you guys have Jamroom installed on a server (let me know if you need any help with that bit) and have your Ning archive uploaded alongside it, let me know and we can do the rest.


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
i could have installed it days ago its been uploaded but the archives taking days and days and days to upload even though its an incomplete archive but i thought u told me to uploadit 1st (the archive) then youd install and import
so i was thinking the archive needed to be there before the install


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
Yeah - big archives can take days to upload. Not much can be done about that.
But whilst waiting you can install Jamroom and start playing and getting the hang of it.
If you want me to install the Jamroom Core for you, send URL, FTP and cPanel logins to support[at]jamroom[dot]net for my attention


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
nah i can handle it no prob but its almost 5 am so ill do ittomorow


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
10 years ago
3,603 posts
I got my server and domain going today. Will be in touch soon with more info and questions. Thanks!


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...just another satisfied Jamroom customer.
Migrated from Ning to Jamroom June 2015
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Strumelia:
I got my server and domain going today. Will be in touch soon with more info and questions. Thanks!

That's good to hear - Paul is our lead on this project so he'll be the one that will be working with you to make sure everything gets setup and working correctly for you.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
10 years ago
3,603 posts
Sounds good Brian. I just now emailed Paul privately- I will wait to hear back that he received my email.
Thank you Jamroom Team!


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...just another satisfied Jamroom customer.
Migrated from Ning to Jamroom June 2015
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Bree
Bree
@bree
10 years ago
16 posts
I am interested in being part of the test migration to Jamroom, I have installed the JR core and also uploaded my Ning archive. I have a small Ning 2 site with just 160 members - susanboylereal.ning.com. the website has just celebrated it's 5th anniversary. I have little to no knowledge of html or CSS so I will probably plague you with loads of inane questions
updated by @bree: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
That's great.
Take a read of the docs. here - https://www.jamroom.net/ning-to-jamroom/documentation/ning2jamroom - so that you have an understanding of the Ning2Jamroom process, then follow the docs. up to where you have uploaded your Ning archive to your server. Then get back to us with your Jamroom site URL, FTP and Jamroom logins (email them to support[at]jamroom[dot]net), then we'll do the rest. When its done you can take a look around the new site and decide then if you want to stick with us here at Jamroom :-)


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Bree
Bree
@bree
10 years ago
16 posts
Thanks Paul will do
updated by @bree: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
I am assuming this is only for Ning 2.0 sites and not for Ning 3.0
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
At the moment, yes. From what I understand, there is as yet no Ning3 archiving tool. When there is, we will take a look at it and see what we can do. Hopefully, Ning3 archives will be in the same format as Ning2, in which case it'll likely be the same process as importing a Ning2 site.
hth
Paul


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
@isleander
you should also know that theres a chance (not a guarantee yet) that 2.0 and 3.0 data might be able to be merged
if users that are on both use the same login info
otherwise they maybe orphaned profiles but theresa user account to profile olinking sysatem that alows multiple accounts to link to 1 profile
so
in thoery once the archivers out..in the next few weeks from my understanding that then it maybe possible
and
since i have both 2.0 and 3.0 in use ill volunteer asa test merge site


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
andddddddde only being here a few days id say both ning and pauls responces are somewhat predictable
in nings case its "we'll we'll note your idea but at this time we have no plans to do that' paul on the other hand seems more likely to say "if it can be done it will be done"


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
Thanks SE - Keep us informed about the Ning3 archiver.

Quote: paul on the other hand seems more likely to say "if it can be done it will be done"
I'll take that as a compliment ;-)



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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
paul:
Thanks SE - Keep us informed about the Ning3 archiver.

Quote: paul on the other hand seems more likely to say "if it can be done it will be done"
I'll take that as a compliment ;-)


most definately meant as 1
btw since making the server changes is my import working


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
"At the moment, yes. From what I understand"

Thanks Paul
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
jkn
@jkn
10 years ago
7 posts
Quick update:

Since moving from old host of many years to a cheaper alternative last summer - I've run into wordpress attacks every other month or account suspensions due to too much activity. I'm rethinking my host at the moment - cheap is definitely what I paid for and I don't feel confident just giving them more money.

I have not had a chance to install jamroom on my current host, yet - and I'm thinking about whether I will or not. I may move to one of the jamroom recommended hosts for this.
updated by @jkn: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/forum/jamroom-hosting/11446/jamroom-recommended-hosting

or if you fancy managing your own server -

https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/blog/23/high-performance-jamroom-on-digitalocean

hth
Pa


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
i use hostforweb.com and am extremely happy with the service and performance


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
jkn
@jkn
10 years ago
7 posts
The hilarious thing about reading web host reviews is it's impossible... you can only find the negative ones. Probably going to try the jamroom recommended host Arvixe.
updated by @jkn: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
Yeah - people like to moan ;-)
I always read between the lines of any review.


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
jkn:
you can only find the negative ones...

I used Arvixe for a couple of years or so, and I must admit my experience with them was a "negative" one.

I have used, what I consider to be the best host I have every found in over two decades, which is Heart Internet. https://www.heartinternet.uk - I'd check them out.

Their support is excellent.
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
like i said with hostforweb.com ive had a great experience with awesome support (though u might have to repeat yourself a few times with the support team)(and ocasionaly translate your english into geekspeak so they understand the issue)

i had a server vpswith godaddy that was a nightmare crashed every 15 minutes or less
i switched to hostforweb and havent had probs since ..well minor glitches in migrations and such but they have been on the ball solving any issues i had


on the issues of reviews being untrustworthy my sites about dreadlocks theres 2 main sites that come up high in google that are absolute scams and cause severe harm yet they control the reviews by having thousandsof clone sites and deleyting anything negative
my sites got a dreadheadhq and knottyboy bad dread products real reviews page where ppl can post actual experiences and its come up high in google and in 3 years has made an 80% drop in people harmed by thier worse products

so paying attention to the bad reviews sometimes can be very helpful (especialy when u see that all actual good reviews were fronm 15 year olds in thier 1st weeks of using the crap before they could realize how horible it was)

i always read both the good and the bad
i pay attention to the percebtages of good and bad and try to get an overall experiences idea


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
Paul/Brian/et al
I am one of the testers SoaringEagle has on his Test#1 site. My question is, he purchased a bundle and can that be cloned over to the Test#1 site as well? Does he perform this on 'his' end or is it something you gentlemen must take care of?
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
kos your asking the wrong questiin its not about a bundle i purchased what you need isthe ning bundle added wich i cannot seemto find in the marketplace however i can simply downoad mine and upload it to yours then u just need ti activate it you assked the wrong question but in the right way to kick start my brain coming right up


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
there login activate them


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
10 years ago
3,603 posts
The Ning To Jamroom Bundle is for sale in the Jamroom team's Marketplace, under the Bundles tab.


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...just another satisfied Jamroom customer.
Migrated from Ning to Jamroom June 2015
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
SE I am and have been logged in. There is no Ning bundle in my marketplace. I've done hard refreshed and checked the last 3 days..........just checked again right now.
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
and no, it's not already under 'installed' either.
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
look up here
at top of page u see bundles
its in there but it shiould be under modules on the left side in your site
u also need the development module thats a must have too


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
thank god i remembered your login its there click acp then on lefty u see ning support clivcchk that to see the 3 modukes i think they are already enabled if not ill enabvle them


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
4 modules and no tyhey werent but will be njow


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
hasd to give ya jrgroups too i forgot about that but seems u installed a few other modules so your getting thehang of it

i cant find where the heck i found the ning support modules either lol thats why i just gave ya mine


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
@kos
went to the jr home page
https://www.jamroom.net/
right there under updatesd modules i see ning ning ning ning


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
se wth I swear to friggin' god that was not there over the weekend. *sigh* If I'm that blind, image how others will have a time of it. *LOL* JR might fare better if they changed the color of that tab to Ning green to make it stand out.

I still covet your bundle btw - just so I can play around and see what can be achieved.
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
Kos:
se wth I swear to friggin' god that was not there over the weekend. *sigh* If I'm that blind, image how others will have a time of it. *LOL* JR might fare better if they changed the color of that tab to Ning green to make it stand out.

I still covet your bundle btw - just so I can play around and see what can be achieved.

Have you got a Ning archive to import? If so, upload it to your new Jamroom site into a folder called 'Ning_Archive' in the Jamroom root folder then let us have your FTP and JR logins. We'll then upload the modules for you to import Ning and play with.


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
See this is what I mean. Step by step, I feel like a stumbling bum. *lol* I see the 'import' tab but no button to upload. Clearly I need to wake up. 7:45am here. More tea; stat!
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
Paul I have a Ning 2.0 Archive, on my hard drive.. would that work?
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
Kos:
See this is what I mean. Step by step, I feel like a stumbling bum. *lol* I see the 'import' tab but no button to upload. Clearly I need to wake up. 7:45am here. More tea; stat!

Bit confused. What are you looking at? What are you trying to do?


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
Isleander:
Paul I have a Ning 2.00 Archive, on my hard drive.. would that work?

If you just want to try out a N2JR import, then yes.
If you want to move from Ning to JR, then make sure its a most recent archive of the Ning site.


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
paul:
If you just want to try out a N2JR import, then yes.
If you want to move from Ning to JR, then make sure its a most recent archive of the Ning site.

I upgraded my Ning account to Ning 3.0 but I still have the old Ning 2.0 archive.

How do I get the NingJa skin/template. Do I need email my ftp details?
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
Paul I have a 2.0 archive to upload. Just confused on 'where' to upload it. You said "upload it to a folder" but I don't see where one does this. Under the Ning upload 'tools' one checks what will be imported but no place to attach the files. It's confusing to novice eyes.......one would expect an button there to attach and upload. Merely give you this as feedback.
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
Checkout our docs on this - https://www.jamroom.net/ning-to-jamroom/documentation/ning2jamroom
Its all there what to do


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
jkn
@jkn
10 years ago
7 posts
NOTE - I'm still running behind. My label has an album release this friday - premiere on SomaFM and all that - so been busy getting that buttoned up.

I do plan to sign up for a month to month with Arvixe - and ftp up my Ning archive. If that all works out then I'll go to pay by year plan.

I'm a little confused on modules needed, but that's because I haven't read carefully yet. Thanks for all the answered questions so far. I'm following along with everyone else's issues and thoughts as I can.

John
updated by @jkn: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
kos i gave u ftp details and use filezilla to login to your sites rooyt in the right side create a folder called ning_imports and upload it into that folder


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
Paul,
Can I buy the NingJa bundle for the offer price now?
If not presently in my Marketplace, can it be uploaded to my SQL?
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
SE you assume I know anything a/b Filezilla, servers and such. Nope. Nada. Zip. Just as most Ning NC's won't either. LOL I'll look for someone instructional videos once the stock market closes (my main job) and keep plugging along. I'm making a step-by-step list for Ning smidiots just like me b/c I can guarantee you - as it stands, they'd run for the hills. lol
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
btw the email notifications are maddening when you have to click each and every one. Would be nice if they contained the first few sentences of the reply. I could zip through my email and get the message, without opening 10 tabs.
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
Then I receive a notification of my own reply. LOL ok
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
Kos:
Then I receive a notification of my own reply. LOL ok

Yes it all a bit odd...
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
hahaha glad to know it's not just me! lol
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Kos:
Then I receive a notification of my own reply. LOL ok

This shouldn't happen, as the email sender makes sure the sender and recipient are not the same. I will check it out.

Thanks!


--
Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
kos
download filezilla
i sent u the host name the login the pass the ligins the same but add @greentechnologyforums.com the pass is the same
when you log into the server in filezilla the left panel is your computers hard drives the right panels your website
i set your ftp root to your sites root
there you will see skins modules etc
when you purchase a module that doesnt just say "install' you download a zip unzip it in the zip thered be unzipped into the fike name say jraudio
on your drive enter that folder inside it you will see modules
since theres a modules un the root u just upload that to the root
alternately enter the modules folder on each side then upload the content

you can then go into your skins if you cloned elastic skin you gave it a name like stbelastic that will have a folder inside stbelastic u will see css
you can right click a css file and view/edit it will open in notepad u make your edits close and save and fz will say do you want to stop editing and upload..click yes

it alows u to edot every file on the server (dont touch php unless you know what your doing or u will break the site) this gives u full control like u never had with ning


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
10 years ago
3,603 posts
I am not getting emails of my own replies, if that helps anything.


--
...just another satisfied Jamroom customer.
Migrated from Ning to Jamroom June 2015
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
10 years ago
3,603 posts
Yep SE it's going to be awesome once we all get our sea legs. :)


--
...just another satisfied Jamroom customer.
Migrated from Ning to Jamroom June 2015
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Kos:
Then I receive a notification of my own reply. LOL ok

Have just tested and am not seeing any issues. Most likely this is just a very active thread, and if you're actively participating in it while also "watching" it you're going to get a lot of notices. Note that the forum will only send you ONE notice of any updates - that gets "reset" when you visit the thread again, which is why you're likely getting a lot of email.

Toggle the "watch this thread" option OFF at the top while you're actively participating.

Hope this helps!


--
Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
Paul, Brian.
I have now subscribed. Can I buy the NingJa bundle for the offer price now?
If not presently in my Marketplace, can it be uploaded to my SQL?
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
jkn
@jkn
10 years ago
7 posts
I just painted my self into a corner...

I created a new account on Arvixe. Did not transfer my domain as it's up and running on another host and I'm not ready to move that site yet. However... all the default links go back to the main domain. Seems I can't run under a temp name.

I may have to think about this a bit on how to get around it. I need to build under an alternate name and then shift it over... or get the old site moved - switch and then build Jamroom.
updated by @jkn: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
im running on a test domain once its all the eway i want it it wilk be moved to the real domain and a "finishing off" import will be done abnd dns name servers changed to the new server


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Isleander:
Paul, Brian.
Can I buy the NingJa bundle for the offer price now?
If not presently in my Marketplace, can it be uploaded to my SQL?

Looks like you are already in the "VIP Member" subscription, so you should be able to purchase the bundle directly from within your Marketplace in your Jamroom:

ACP -> Marketplace -> Bundles tab

Let me know if that helps.

Thanks!


--
Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
jkn:
I just painted my self into a corner...

I created a new account on Arvixe. Did not transfer my domain as it's up and running on another host and I'm not ready to move that site yet. However... all the default links go back to the main domain. Seems I can't run under a temp name.

I may have to think about this a bit on how to get around it. I need to build under an alternate name and then shift it over... or get the old site moved - switch and then build Jamroom.

I'd recommend setting up a separate hostname (i.e. jameoom.yourdomain.com) and just point that host to the Arvixe server. We've noticed that Jamroom will not function properly on Arvixe WITHOUT a valid domain - i.e. you can't use just the "username" URL they give you for the cpanel.

Hope this helps!


--
Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
brian:

Looks like you are already in the "VIP Member" subscription, so you should be able to purchase the bundle directly from within your Marketplace in your Jamroom:

ACP -> Marketplace -> Bundles tab


Thanks but I am not seeing this yet.. how long does it normally take to filter through?

I am also getting an error message (see image)

Thanks!

updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Isleander:
Thanks but I am not seeing this yet.. how long does it normally take to filter through?

Thanks!

It should be immediately - the marketplace requests are not cached. Do you already have all the items installed? Have you configured your marketplace with your system ID and marketplace email?

Thanks!


--
Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
did u click bundles theres the marketplace fir individual items then thge 1 for bundled items


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
where ogh where do i find my marketplace id or where do i set it


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
brian:

It should be immediately - the marketplace requests are not cached. Do you already have all the items installed? Have you configured your marketplace with your system ID and marketplace email?

Thanks!

OK - Do I need to modify my license key in order to see the new items?
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
soaringeagle:
where ogh where do i find my marketplace id or where do i set it

Click here:

https://www.jamroom.net/networklicense/licenses

it's in the green box. take those TWO values and go to your Jamroom -> ACP -> Marketplace -> Tools -> Marketplace Systems and click on "Modify" to the right of the Jamroom Network. Put the Marketplace Email there and the Marketplace System ID there and save. DO NOT change the other 2 values.

Hope this helps!


--
Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
srry not the marketplace id i measn the 2 letterprefix code


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Isleander:
OK - Do I need to modify my license key in order to see the new items?

See my post right above this one ^


Your email and system id must match what is tied to your account here (the 2 values in the green box).

Thanks!


--
Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
soaringeagle:
srry not the marketplace id i measn the 2 letterprefix code

You don't need to worry about that - just ignore it. That's only for registered Jamroom developers to worry about.


--
Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
Anyway.. I modify my marketplace licence and email address and all the NingJa things are now showing... so looks OK!
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Isleander:
Anyway.. I modify my marketplace licence and email address and all the NingJa things are now showing... so looks OK!

Excellent - glad to hear that ;)


--
Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
10 years ago
3,603 posts
Yay!


--
...just another satisfied Jamroom customer.
Migrated from Ning to Jamroom June 2015
updated by @strumelia: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
I have created a group but it is not showing in the front page Group module. I have refreshed the caches but nothing?
URL is http://regal-network.com/ncnorg
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
soaringeagle:
kos
download filezilla
i sent u the host name the login the pass the ligins the same but add @greentechnologyforums.com the pass is the same
when you log into the server in filezilla the left panel is your computers hard drives the right panels your website
i set your ftp root to your sites root
there you will see skins modules etc
when you purchase a module that doesnt just say "install' you download a zip unzip it in the zip thered be unzipped into the fike name say jraudio
on your drive enter that folder inside it you will see modules
since theres a modules un the root u just upload that to the root
alternately enter the modules folder on each side then upload the content

you can then go into your skins if you cloned elastic skin you gave it a name like stbelastic that will have a folder inside stbelastic u will see css
you can right click a css file and view/edit it will open in notepad u make your edits close and save and fz will say do you want to stop editing and upload..click yes

it alows u to edot every file on the server (dont touch php unless you know what your doing or u will break the site) this gives u full control like u never had with ning

Yeah, uh buddy I think I'm just going to step aside on this one and let you have at it. It's clearly over my head and if I'm not getting it, I guarantee you 90% of Ning Creators will not get it either.

It may be better for me to wait at this juncture or seek an alternative.
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
Kos:
It may be better for me to wait at this juncture or seek an alternative.


I've just set up a Ningja skin... And so far everything is looking good and quite easy to understand.

If you are having difficulty installing the Jamroon 5 core, I believe that Jamroom support can do this for you.

My new site is http://new-covenant.org.uk
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Isleander:
I have created a group but it is not showing in the front page Group module. I have refreshed the caches but nothing?
URL is http://regal-network.com/ncnorg

Ignore all the Ning modules at this point (except the importer) - I will have new versions out ASAP (hopefully next 2-3 days) that should work like you are familiar to them working. Right now things are not likely to work like you would expect.

Thanks!


--
Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Kos:
Yeah, uh buddy I think I'm just going to step aside on this one and let you have at it. It's clearly over my head and if I'm not getting it, I guarantee you 90% of Ning Creators will not get it either.

It may be better for me to wait at this juncture or seek an alternative.

While I'd love to say "Jamroom is 100% made for everyone", I'd be lying. To run your own Jamroom site you're going to need to be at least a little bit technically familiar with running your own website, including:

- using FTP to upload and download files to your server
- managing your site
- understanding the basics of HTML and CSS (this is very helpful)

If those things are areas you're not familiar with or comfortable with, you'll be best suited by sticking with Ning or another SAAS system where they do all the hosting, configuration, customization, etc. for you.

Hope this helps!


--
Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
brian:

Right now things are not likely to work like you would expect.


OK, Thanks.
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
paul
@paul
10 years ago
4,326 posts
Isleander:
I have created a group but it is not showing in the front page Group module. I have refreshed the caches but nothing?
URL is http://regal-network.com/ncnorg

Groups are only listed after they've been commented on and then by the number of comments they have. That is the skins definition of 'Top Groups'.
hth
Pa


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Paul Asher - JR Developer and System Import Specialist
updated by @paul: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
brian:
Kos:
Yeah, uh buddy I think I'm just going to step aside on this one and let you have at it. It's clearly over my head and if I'm not getting it, I guarantee you 90% of Ning Creators will not get it either.

It may be better for me to wait at this juncture or seek an alternative.

While I'd love to say "Jamroom is 100% made for everyone", I'd be lying. To run your own Jamroom site you're going to need to be at least a little bit technically familiar with running your own website, including:

- using FTP to upload and download files to your server
- managing your site
- understanding the basics of HTML and CSS (this is very helpful)

If those things are areas you're not familiar with or comfortable with, you'll be best suited by sticking with Ning or another SAAS system where they do all the hosting, configuration, customization, etc. for you.

Hope this helps!

and then your a slave to them yiur dependent on them to make changes when they want..how they want..if threy want if you want tio have conterol of your site u gotta learn about your site
im finding it hard to kearn jamroom

but ftp?
can you type/ or copy paste? or click a button?
can you figure out how to tight click in under 8 hours without having to switch hands? (srry an actual tech support nightmare i had once it took me 8 hiurs to get her to right click the desktop and she had to use her other hand to figure it out)

ftp is so easy
if youve moved files from 1 folder on your psc to another then you can ftp
all your doing is moving files from 1 folder to another it just happens to be in a server


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
@kos
i believe i emailed you a simple configuration file so download filezilla
do file import
then your ftp is set to go 1 click file site manager your ftp site
thatsit
your in you will see the server files on the right your computer drives on the left


you browst the sever structure just like you do your pc

you can learn this in 2 minutes
all u need to do is try


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
off topic but i looked into your recomended hosting just cause of my importing issues
the cloud servers were afordable but had a max of 300 g drive and when i asked if they canb upgrade that they said "we can add another 15 gigs" 15? that could be filled in hours
i looked into the dedicated servers then
at 1/4 the power i got niw they were like 3 times the price well 4 times really cause that was without the added options i got
oh
and wheni tried to call them it took 4 hours to get through

i mighgt be havina lil import issues probly due to some server config or other but the price and service i get..and the drasticly more powerful server...
i just couldnt imagine spending 500 dollars for far less then what i got jnow andto get what i got now (base price without the addons was likr 179 i think) would cost me like 700 or so at a guess through your guys

and if it took 4 hours to answer the phone in an emergency if the server went down or anything ...just not worth the hassle and expense


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
I'm getting errors when clicking on profile links from the homepage activity.

This is an example.
"CRI: Unable to copy modules/jrProfile/templates/item_detail.tpl to template cache directory: data/cache/jrCore"

Any advice would be appreciated.
Thanks.
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
hmm link to your site now im just guessing here and thier support will know better but that feels like a server config issue to me
well wait u didnt change any directory names accidfently in ftp or move anything by mistake did u


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
soaringeagle:
hmm link to your site now im just guessing here and thier support will know better but that feels like a server config issue to me
well wait u didnt change any directory names accidfently in ftp or move anything by mistake did u

Thanks SE,

It's OK now. I think the issue may have been that the user was still in the process of signing up, and had not fully completed the process. Therefore the cache was out of date.
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
hmm interesting


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
How can I find jCore Skin IDs?

I want to add a menu item (i.e. Pages), but I am struggling to discover where I can find the Skin ID.
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
i believe that would be the name yiu gave the skin when you cloned it
ie if you cloned jrning
and named it ningbling
then ningbling wiukd be the id

i think
im figuring thisall out right along with ya but that makes sence to me


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
SE
I haven't cloned any skins.
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
Are these extra menu tabs only visible to the admins? I don't see them on user's page.
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Isleander:
How can I find jCore Skin IDs?

I want to add a menu item (i.e. Pages), but I am struggling to discover where I can find the Skin ID.

Those IDs are for language strings - you can modify them in ACP -> Skins -> YourSkin -> Language tab

Hope this helps!


--
Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
brian:

Those IDs are for language strings - you can modify them in ACP -> Skins -> YourSkin -> Language tab

Hope this helps!

OK thank you for your help, I'll take a look as see if I can figure that out.

Regards!
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
u should clone any skin b4 u work on it


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
Alrightee have my 2.0 files copied over to the server. Went to Ning import, set the global config and went to tools. Only checked the first box (to see how it went) and received this error.

"jrComment module inactive - Abandon import"

Does this mean I must purchase the "user comments" module in order to proceed or lost the comments in my archive?
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Kos:
Alrightee have my 2.0 files copied over to the server. Went to Ning import, set the global config and went to tools. Only checked the first box (to see how it went) and received this error.

"jrComment module inactive - Abandon import"

Does this mean I must purchase the "user comments" module in order to proceed or lost the comments in my archive?

Nothing will be lost from your Archive, it just won't be imported in to the new site if you don't have the corresponding Jamroom module(s) - i.e. Audio, Video, Comments, etc.

Hope this helps!


--
Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
It was members. LOL
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
The same error pops up no matter what I try to import so it seems nothing is importing at all. Even w/o comments attached.
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
Are these extra menu tabs only visible to the admins? I don't see them on user's page.
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Kos:
The same error pops up no matter what I try to import so it seems nothing is importing at all. Even w/o comments attached.

I apologize, but I haven't done an actual import yet, but is it the same error message about comments?

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Isleander:
Are these extra menu tabs only visible to the admins? I don't see them on user's page.

The only restriction on those items is that the user must be logged in - so as long as the user is logged in they should see them in the site header.

Hope this helps!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
can that be chsanged so logged out users see them not every 1 but forums photos music bligs groups etc


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
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Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
brian:

The only restriction on those items is that the user must be logged in - so as long as the user is logged in they should see them in the site header.


They do not appear for some reason... they are only on the admin pages. Please see image
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updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
hmm check your quotya settings u kmight onky have given access to asdmins to them


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
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Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
SE, This is the "top menu" not the modules - quotas are set to "allow" on all users quotas - they are visible on user pages.
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Isleander:
SE, This is the "top menu" not the modules - quotas are set to "allow" on all users quotas - they are visible on user pages.

Yeah those should be showing - I will check it out and see what's up and let you know.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
hes right they only show for admnins but they need to be visibole to all including logged out unless you want a private network

on the ning skin maybe there should be a maunj m enu tamb in the skin editor that alows you to set visibility for each item by quota wether that be all including logged out admins members poweer users or any other quota u defined and btw i see theres quota groups can u define groups and assign quotas to them the way you would as a net admin


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
i fixed my discuss button inthe template easy enough


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
brian:

Yeah those should be showing - I will check it out and see what's up and let you know.

Thanks!

Thanks
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
Brian, yes I was receiving the same error message within seconds for all imports but at Ning, we tend to have comments on just about every page so I can see why that was a red flag.

It's going to be very unnerving for Creators to come and 'test the waters' here unless ya'll roll out a 14 day free trial with all (basic) modules included. Blog, forum, photo, video, comments.

They'll never be able to test layouts and get a feel for design possibilities w/o them.....much less import. Is this (14day trial) something you have planned?
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
brian:
Yeah those should be showing - I will check it out and see what's up and let you know.
Thanks!

Would it be possible to add "pages" to the top menu (Page Creator pages, not NPages). As that appears to be missing.

Thank you.
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
would prefer they could be mixed in somehow


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
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brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Kos:
Brian, yes I was receiving the same error message within seconds for all imports but at Ning, we tend to have comments on just about every page so I can see why that was a red flag.

It's going to be very unnerving for Creators to come and 'test the waters' here unless ya'll roll out a 14 day free trial with all (basic) modules included. Blog, forum, photo, video, comments.

They'll never be able to test layouts and get a feel for design possibilities w/o them.....much less import. Is this (14day trial) something you have planned?

This is what Paul has done for everyone who he has worked with so far - for those that want to attempt it on their own we don't currently have any way to offer "free trials" on any modules. Definitely something we can look into though.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
profiles lists uses default pic wether the users got a pic or not


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
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brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
soaringeagle:
profiles lists uses default pic wether the users got a pic or not

Profiles and Users are 2 different things in Jamroom. This is because Jamroom has the ability to have multiple Users on a single profile, and multiple profiles tied to a single user. Now if the user uploads a Profile pic, but no user pic, the profile pic will be used - I don't think it goes the other direction as well, but I can check.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
didnt know u could upload a user pic but i know my profiles git a profuile pic and it showed thedefault and so did every 1 in the list when u click profiles


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
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Strumelia
Strumelia
@strumelia
10 years ago
3,603 posts
"Profiles and Users are 2 different things in Jamroom. This is because Jamroom has the ability to have multiple Users on a single profile, and multiple profiles tied to a single user. Now if the user uploads a Profile pic, but no user pic, the profile pic will be used - I don't think it goes the other direction as well, but I can check."


I think I need a diagram. With little stick people.

I think and think, and keep coming to the conclusion that ...I am my own grandpa!


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Migrated from Ning to Jamroom June 2015
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
i cant figure out how to upload a user vs profile pic lol unless u measn like your 1st profiles your user pic your second and third profiles are just profile pics

but the thing is in the elastic skin in the slider i saw all the profile pics
in ning skin i see the profile pics in the profiles
but in the profile list when clicking the link i see just the default pifc for every 1


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
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soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
oh and was gonna mention did a speed test comparing the ning 2.0 main page and my jr test front page even with cache off it was aroundfthe samne but with cache onit was a minumum of 6 times faster.. loads under 2 seconds almost every time while my 2.0 was loading at 12-13 average

yea i think we will be happy here soon as its ready


and if paul dont come back from india with 20 foot long jata at least we'll get his beard to dread


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
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Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
That's odd. My discussions were importing and about mid-way through, I received an error that there was trouble connecting to the server however there's no way to re-connect nor "X" out of the box. I clicked "ok" and it's just sitting there with a wheel spinning. Should I just close out the tab and re-open/start over again?
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
right click reload and start it again
fdid it say json error
the ning archives suck
theres alotta errors and the importwers managing to handle them but to avoid an infinate loop after 10 errors it alerts you and you have to refresh the page and start again it will go through the ones that are there already then pick up where it left off
turn off error reporting so its fasster


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
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Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
Ningja Skin.

An important feature missing in groups is the ability to add pages to the group. This is very important for us as ex-Ning users.

Thanks
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
groups pages discussions modules arent working right in the skin and hopefully will be fixed tomorow


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
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Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
soaringeagle:
groups pages discussions modules arent working right in the skin and hopefully will be fixed tomorow

SE,
Apart for the couple of things I have mentioned above, everything else seems to be OK on our site.

I'm building from scratch... not used the archiver.
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
Isleander
Isleander
@isleander
10 years ago
554 posts
Just to say that we are regularly encountering this error on the activity when clicking links within it.

"CRI: Unable to copy modules/jrProfile/templates/item_detail.tpl to template cache directory: data/cache/jrCore"

This concerns member/user profile links.
updated by @isleander: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
run the system check
make sure the servers configured corectly
run the integrity check
if the integrity check causes the oages to not oload cirectly like mine did go into phpmyadmin on the se4rver on left search setting
clich the jcore_setting control f t9o search page type skin
whenu find the line saying soimething like jrcore_skin colicik edit copy tyhe default skin name paste over the active skin name scroll dowen click go
replad yo8ur page then re enable your skin

you really should have cloned the skin b4 working on it so youd always have the default version to compare to or fall back on in an emergency

in fact if your not really a coder it might not be a bad idea to clone b4 every major change that way you havge a revision history to fall back on like ning kept forner versions of your theme everytime u published
cloning would do the same thintg just adda version number after the name each time


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
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Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
Alright I'm finally done importing with the exception of events and notes which I could care less about right now. Back to work but will begin tweaking once the stock market closes.......

SE if you have any words of wisdom on cloning, skins and such, just email 'em to me @ mrsbuz1@aol.com (yes, aol - I know - it's a dinosaur LOL)
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
go to developer tools in tools
if you dont have that module..get it its a must have

its free
click tools, clone skin
give it a name
something unique but identifiable to the original skin

examples i cloned elastic into fantastalastic slate into greatslate and ning into ningbling

now in ftp its easy to find what css to play with
you enable the cloned skin so its active any edits to the templates are edits to the clone

so if you want to try something that your unsure of you can clone say ningbling to ningbling1 it will clone all ningblings edits alow u to edit ningbling1 if u screw up just enablwe ningbling agvain u can therefore keep a version history
only really worthwhile for major revisions i mean your not going to want a new clone everytime u change a element color or font size but if your making major template changes and want a safety backup just create a new version to work with


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
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Kos
Kos
@kos
10 years ago
75 posts
Brian alrightee, I'm fiddling with skins and altering css/html although I have a question. I truly want to use a Ning skin so I am truly documenting this process specifically for Ning Creators. One problem - I cut up my credit cards 10 years ago! LOL I see that you do not accept PayPal for such a small $7 purchase. Since I'm simply testing being a 'guinea pig' here (not going live), is there any way you could provide me with the Ning skin for this temporary situation? http://team1.legalisecannabis.org/
updated by @kos: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Kos:
Brian alrightee, I'm fiddling with skins and altering css/html although I have a question. I truly want to use a Ning skin so I am truly documenting this process specifically for Ning Creators. One problem - I cut up my credit cards 10 years ago! LOL I see that you do not accept PayPal for such a small $7 purchase. Since I'm simply testing being a 'guinea pig' here (not going live), is there any way you could provide me with the Ning skin for this temporary situation? http://team1.legalisecannabis.org/

We accept PayPal for any amount - is there somewhere you saw that it said we didn't? I'd like to check that out.

I can add the skin license to your account no problem.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
I don't see a Jamroom install for you in our License Manager - I can't add a license to your account until you setup your marketplace correctly in your Jamroom install. Let me know if you have done that.

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
soaringeagle
@soaringeagle
10 years ago
3,304 posts
brian when you access the marketplace from within your suite it only gives a credit card option
when you access it through jr site you have paypal o-ption
however heres where i swcrewed up
and maybe you could issue a partial refund
when you buty through the jr marketplace the bundles u pay for the full bundle inckluding stuff you already paid for!
if u buy through your sites marketplace u only pay for the peice of the bundle not installed...but then u have to use as cc

i spent i have no idea how much but over 300 and agood number of the modules in the bundles wsere already installed so i paid for ones i didnt need to pay for


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soaringeagle
head dreadhead at dreadlocks site
glider pilot student and member/volunteer coordinator with freedoms wings international soaring for people with disabilities
updated by @soaringeagle: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
soaringeagle:
brian when you access the marketplace from within your suite it only gives a credit card option
when you access it through jr site you have paypal o-ption
however heres where i swcrewed up
and maybe you could issue a partial refund
when you buty through the jr marketplace the bundles u pay for the full bundle inckluding stuff you already paid for!

Yeah - unfortunately the PayPal side of things is NOT setup the same as the Stripe side (and has made me think on several times it might be time to just remove the PayPal option).

If you can contact me at support [at] jamroom [dot] net I can refund you for any modules you had already purchased.

Hope this helps!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
p.s. - this thread is GETTING HUGE. I am going to lock this one - can we please start new threads for new issues?

Thanks!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
updated by @brian: 12/29/14 09:23:54AM

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