System Tips Modification

Dazed
Dazed
@dazed
10 years ago
1,022 posts
I love the system tips feature that was just added but I would like to make a slight modification to it. What I would like is this:

1. Implement the same code on the artist page

2. Make it so that on first time signup, this information is on by default

3. Allow the user to turn it off or on accordingly

4. Offer tips on each module if it is available. If the audio page is enabled it would walk them through creating a song.

I still have users that are lost after signup. I am not sure how many have walked away because they are confused. If a jr dev wants to just customize this for me only, just sent me a rate.
updated by @dazed: 07/10/14 07:20:27PM
boplive
@boplive
10 years ago
345 posts
I like your modifications request ;) and your right sometimes users get lost on what to do next after they signup or when they log back in..where to go to start adding there media to there profile
Dazed
Dazed
@dazed
10 years ago
1,022 posts
Hopefully the team will see the value in this. There was some software out there that did overlays that I considered and I may go back to it. It is similar to what google uses when they release something new. The new JR Tips is very similar so I would love to see it added. Since it is already there, it might be easy to add. I am guessing it is just using anchors for the tips.
michael
@michael
10 years ago
7,720 posts
Its using anchors for the tips, then figuring out what to write.

Technically doable.
Dazed
Dazed
@dazed
10 years ago
1,022 posts
Very cool Michael. This would be so valuable to me on the artist pages.
michael
@michael
10 years ago
7,720 posts
Do you know what you want the tips to say? It would save me time thinking about that if you already know.

Easier to implement something that's already half done.
Dazed
Dazed
@dazed
10 years ago
1,022 posts
You know if we keep it basic I think it would be best. We do not need it to be excessive but if jr admin have access to tips, we could edit them ourselves. I also wonder if we set the standard on one page like what the icons are for and explain that they work the same on all subsequent pages if that would suffice?

examples:
(+) click here to create a song, blog, image etc.
(sprocket) click here to edit profile, edit song, edit blog
(trash can) click here to delete song, blog, image
(swirly) click here to arrange the song, blog, image order
(music image) click here to add this song to your playlist
(image) click here to change your image
(sprocket) click here to update your profile ie. bio, influences, email, language, notifications, subscriptions, social media and profile customization
updated by @dazed: 06/09/14 08:07:54PM
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
Dazed:
Since it is already there, it might be easy to add.

Unfortunately not really - making this so it is 100% customizable for tips by the end user, to display to quotas/groups/whatever will make the module 5x its size right now. Something we may do down the road, but likely not at this time.

Sorry!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
Dazed
Dazed
@dazed
10 years ago
1,022 posts
I would not make it customizable like that ie. Admin change on editing the page. But the values would be stored in either a db or maybe php file. If an ad min wants to change the default values they could do so at their own risk.

In all honesty this module is needed badly. I can forward a few emails or you can actually check my forum since there is a thread there about confused end users.

The problem is we get them to the site and even though we find it easy to navigate, not everyone is as technical as we are. We lose people due to this.
brian
@brian
10 years ago
10,148 posts
I don't doubt you - I've not heard really any requests for something like this over the years beyond the "just make everything easier", but I know it certainly couldn't hurt.

The problem here is that to get it from where it is now (100% developer controlled) to being released as a module that the site owner can utilize, is a lot of work. It needs to be multilingual, it needs to have some way of helping the site owner figure out "where" to attach the tip (it uses jQuery selectors - something 98% of our customers know nothing about, and that's going to be hard at best), as well as a "tip manager" for creating, editing and deleting tips from the system.

So it's doable, it's just not going to happen soon. Here's the tips that the JR module uses:

http://qtip2.com/

you can add those in to your templates as needed - no need to even use the module.

Hope this helps!


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Brian Johnson
Founder and Lead Developer - Jamroom
https://www.jamroom.net
Dazed
Dazed
@dazed
10 years ago
1,022 posts
Thanks Michael and Brian. I was originally looking at http://heelhook.github.io/chardin.js/ but never implemented. I am thinking it is time for me to do one or the other.