Forum Activity for @adolygwr

Ceri
@adolygwr
11/19/16 12:15:10PM
370 posts

Boilerplate 'Terms Of Use' for Sales Site?


Using Jamroom

Just wondering if anyone knows where I might find some boilerplate text for a sales site? Sometghing that covers copyright, payouts etc. I hate legal mumbo jumbo but I realise the importance of this and was hoping that there is something somewhere that I could adapt for use on my site?
updated by @adolygwr: 02/20/17 04:48:14PM
Ceri
@adolygwr
11/17/16 06:12:10PM
370 posts

Help With 'Spacers' & Stanza Breaks


Using Jamroom

k...many thanks. That looks easier. I'll tell them to do that :)
Ceri
@adolygwr
11/17/16 02:52:03PM
370 posts

Help With 'Spacers' & Stanza Breaks


Using Jamroom

Just wondering if anyone has a better solution to a problem that I have with my annual poetry competition on the AmeriCymru site.

Basically people submit their entries to the competition on a dedicated forum page and of course they want stanza breaks to appear in the appropriate places. I realise that this is a TinyMCE issue but I am hoping that there is a less convoluted solution to the problem than the one I am currently recommending.

Ordinarily when members post, their poems appear with
<p></p>
in between stanzas/verses. This produces a linebreak but, presumably because the p tags are empty, it does NOT produce a full stanza break.

SO I am advising people to open 'source view' add three dots (or something similar) between the p tags and then go back to WISYWIG view, highlight the dots and change the text color to white, like so:-

<p><span style="color: #ffffff;">...</span></p>


This works just fine and it only takes a minute BUT it is somewhat inelegant and a bit of a nuisance. Well....at least some of my members think so :)

Is there an easier way to do this?
updated by @adolygwr: 02/26/17 12:34:10AM
Ceri
@adolygwr
11/17/16 01:58:30PM
370 posts

Group Invitations


Using Jamroom

I'm having a 'Why didn't I think of that!!!' moment :)

I guess I can control groups via the quota system BUT I think the ability to join and promote other members groups is a better option.

As I said earlier in this thread groups can be a bit of a minefield. This is because you need to avoid stifling members creativity whilst retaining the right degree of control. You also need to be able to support members when they create what may turn out to be a major asset to the site.

I believe that giving site creators and admins the ability to join groups created by other members and have their icons appear on the members list would be a big plus. Similarly I believe that allowing the site creator and admins to send out group invites to all members would enormously enhance the value of this feature.

But then I guess I've already made that clear :)

I am only raising my concerns about this now because we have had our first new group created on the AmeriCymru site by a 'rank and file' member since transitioning to Jamroom. This caused me to pay attention to the Groups module for the first time. We are enjoying such success in other areas because of all the wonderful new features we have at our disposal that I had barely looked at Groups before now.

My only concern in raising these questions is to ensure that Groups become a more powerful tool on the platform and that we avoid some of the problems that arose with them, for me and other site creators, on Ning .
Ceri
@adolygwr
11/16/16 02:38:59PM
370 posts

Group Invitations


Using Jamroom

Hi Paul

Yep thats it :) That will enable site admins to more effectively moderate groups and prevent them becoming semi-autonomous and potentially unruly. It will also mean that site admins can actively support and promote groups i.e. get behind site members who want to build something specific on the site.

If that solution involves too much work then the option to allow or disallow site members from creating groups would also work. Groups could then be created by site admins at members request. Site admins would then automatically be members of all groups and presumably able to send out mass invites? I am assuming that would be easier to implement?

Cheers

Ceri
Ceri
@adolygwr
11/15/16 10:36:26PM
370 posts

Group Invitations


Using Jamroom

OK many thanks. Perhaps I should explain my paranoia about Groups :)

Back in the bad old days of Ning2 we had a Group moderators password 'socially engineered' by a suspended member,. Group mods on Ning2 can delete not only the Group of which they are a moderator but ALL Groups on the site. That is precisely what happened. 122 Groups were deleted in about 5 minutes and 6 years worth of content was lost. Ning was unable to restore anything more than the logo and introductory text on the group home page. Everything else that I was able to salvage (about 20% of the total) had to be found, copied and pasted from the Wayback Machine.

Now I know that there is no similar danger here BUT I really don't want features on the site that I do not:-

A. Have complete control over and,
B. That it is not evident that I have complete control over.

Another option would be to enable the site admin to disallow members from creating groups. That way if a member wanted to create a group they could ask me and I could create it for them. I assume that if I do that I can subsequently invite all members to join.
updated by @adolygwr: 11/15/16 10:38:16PM
Ceri
@adolygwr
11/15/16 10:21:16PM
370 posts

Group Invitations


Using Jamroom

michael:
Admin has access to all groups, there is nothing on the admins site that they cannot access.

What do you imagine would be different if an admin clicked the join button vs not clicking it?

Other members of the group would know that the site admin/s was a member. That, in my experience, is NOT a small consideration.

Also. I am hoping that, if I can join new groups it will also mean that I can invite to them (for the reasons described above). If I go here:- https://americymru.net/invite/create and check the list of groups I can invite to I do not find this new group on the list. That means I cannot assist in making new groups grow.
updated by @adolygwr: 11/15/16 10:28:07PM
Ceri
@adolygwr
11/15/16 07:11:15PM
370 posts

Group Invitations


Using Jamroom

Of course nothing I have said above applies to private groups which are an entirely different kettle of bananas :)
Ceri
@adolygwr
11/15/16 07:09:52PM
370 posts

Group Invitations


Using Jamroom

michael:
I think I see what you're saying: When a user joins a group, they should be able to invite THEIR followers to the group too via the invite module.

Like saying: "Hey, I joined this group, come be here with me."

Not enough to send a message via that users status update? A status update of "Hey, I just joined THIS group xxxxxx see you there....", which would go out to all that users followers, inadequate?

Yes up to a point BUT my main beef is that I cannot join groups unless I start them. That is dangerous imho (see my previous post). What I want is this:-

1. Someone starts a group on the site.

2. I join it and my icon appears in the members list AND the group appears in my invite list.

3. Assuming that the group founder is agreeable (and in 8 years of running the site I have not come across a single case where they were not) I send out an invite to all members.

That way I get to keep control of groups without appearing to be dictatorial (at least I am a member of the group if I have to intervene) AND I can help members set up, hopefully, lively and active groups by inviting the members that they cannot.

Sorry to bang on about this at such length but groups can be a major asset AND a major liability and it is crucial imho that admins have both absolute AND granular control to make them work.
Ceri
@adolygwr
11/15/16 07:02:35PM
370 posts

Group Invitations


Using Jamroom

Another point occurs to me. Is it entirely fair that everyone on the site can join groups EXCEPT the site creator and admins? On the AmeriCymru Ning site people started groups frequently and occasionally those groups were little more than fronts for political hijacking purposes. AmeriCymru is a strictly non-political site but of course some people always like to push the boundaries if they can. My policy of joining every new group was in part a response to that danger.

Of course I can always employ the administrative sledgehammer and delete groups which are encouraging people to break site rules BUT I would prefer to employ a gentler approach if possible i.e. simply posting and reminding people of said rules.

As presently constituted could a group creator simply delete my remarks and remind me that I am not a member? If so then I would have no control over a section of the site short of employing the nuclear option i.e. the delete button!
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