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When updating my account details, as regular user, I am forced to reset my password

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Thanks. That setting makes sense for someone who is actually changing their critical account details - the email address and password. But it seems that changes to other fields in the account settings form get caught in the net.

i.e. I login as a regular member to my regular member account. I want to quickly change the spelling of my location (for example) in the account settings form. So I make a minor change there, but then learn, after attempting to save my little change, that I also have to re-enter my password twice, and then once more, because of the security in place for changing an email address or password.

If this is how the system is designed to work, then it is not user-friendly.

If it is not how it is meant to work, then maybe I have a bug in my set up.

Is unchecking the authentication security option a risky thing to do?

Is that the only way I can make it easier for users to update their user accounts?
updated by @researchcooperative: 03/07/17 09:04:30PM

When updating my account details, as regular user, I am forced to reset my password

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Hi.

Updating Profile details in the profile form is no problem. The system accepts that I have already logged in with my password.

When updating details in my account, a bright yellow bar appears in the password field when I try to save. I then have to enter my password twice. This is accepted when I now press the save button, but then the attached message appears, telling me that I have to enter my password (yet again!) to continue.

At this point the system thinks I am trying to change my password.

So, in order to change an account detail, other than the password, I have to enter my password four times, to login, then twice in order to make a save action, and then a fourth time to conclude the process.

Is this the expected process for changing account details other then the password itself?

Soundcloud

Installation and Configuration

The documentation (here: https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/documentation/modules/290/soundcloud) gives a basic introduction to setting up Soundcloud, but to get the APP we have to go to the Soundcloud site and follow a long registration process, which presents some difficulty.

Below is a list of questions or option choices, near the start of the process for "SoundCloud Application Registration".

I cannot get past the first question: App Category. How should JR site owners answer this? Do we need only basic playback, or playback aggregation? I suppose different JR sites will want one or more different Apps according to how Soundcloud is to be used. In my case, either curation or basic playback may be relevant, if these functions are what I think they are.

App Category *
Select one
Curation
Basic Playback
Creator Marketing
Playback Aggregation (unified playback for Spotify, SoundCloud, YouTube, etc)
DJ Tools
Game
Background, In-app SoundCloud Listening
Will your app playback content from the SoundCloud API? *
No playback
Yes: playback of signed in creator's content only
Track-by-track playback of other creators' content
Continuous playback of other creators' content
Other:
Is your use of the SoundCloud API for a business? *
Yes
No
Monetization *
How (if at all) will your application make money?
No monetization
App Store sales
Advertising
In-app purchases
Subscription
Other:
updated by @researchcooperative: 03/07/17 05:57:42AM

Soundcloud

Installation and Configuration

To create a soundcloud APP we have to register with soundcloud. The Soundcloud page says this can take up to a month (see below). Am I looking at the wrong source of information? I also have to provide a SoundCloud Profile URL and "this profile must already exist." So what kind of thing has to be created on a JR site to generate a URL so that I can apply to register an App and get the keys needed to set this up in JR?

I will keep looking for JR documentation on this. Perhaps there is a step by step guide already available...

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SoundCloud Application Registration
Apply here to request access to the SoundCloud API and register your application. All applications must comply with our API Terms of Use ( https://developers.soundcloud.com/docs/api/terms-of-use).

***Please allow up to a month to receive an update on the outcome of your application***

Data Browser functions

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Thanks - yes.

My impression is the the profile browser already does what you are showing, but the user account browser does not.

P.

Data Browser functions

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The modules are separate, but they do seem to "know" about each other, which is why I wonder if cross-module search functions can be developed to reveal all profiles with multiple owners, or all accounts owning multiple profiles.

I do not have a pressing need for this, but in the long term, it might be a useful tool for site administrators who wish to know their members better, or who need to help members who have got themselves in a tangle with multiple profiles and accounts.

Here are the results of my study today:

1. As admin, if we try to find the user account of a profile that is not the primary profile of a user, there will be no account settings displayed after we click on the settings cog of the profile. So then we know that this profile belongs to a user account with more than one profile.

To find this user account, we can go to the Profile browser in ACP, and search for the profile name. The profile will come up, and User name and account email will be shown alongside in the results table.

(ACP>Users>Profile browser)

If two users have control of the profile, they will both be shown in the Profile browser results list (I could demonstrate this to myself with my own site today).

So the profile module does "know" who the account holders are for every profile, but we can only find the user accounts manually, inspecting profiles one by one.

2. Approaching this from the other direction, if we want to know if a particular user account controls other profiles, we can find the other profiles with two steps: (1) first find the primary profile of that user by searching for the User name in the User Account Browser (ACP>Users>User Account browser) . (If the Profile has a different name than the User name, searching the main member list on your site won't reveal the profile). (2) In the list of results for the User, just one profile name is shown, even if the user controls more than one profile. To see if there are other profiles associated, we have to go to click on "Modify" in the search result page, which is the quickest way to reach the User Account settings page of that User. At the bottom, of the Account settings page, other profiles will be listed, if there are any.

3. Conclusion
It does seem, to me, that the Account module "knows" about other profiles controlled by the User, but the User Account Browser is not set up to show these when a User account is found by the Browser search function.

I'm fine with the basic set up of modules at JR. There could not be a more flexible system. But the flexibility may make cross-module search functions critical for navigation by user account owners, administrators, and visitors.

As far as I can see, cross-module search is already in place for public data displayed in open areas of a site: we can put a keyword in the universal search field, and it will produce results from many different modules. The main search function is great.

Thanks.
updated by @researchcooperative: 02/25/17 03:51:42AM

Data Browser functions

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That's probably true, but how do we find the users with more than one profile, to see how members are using profile options?

Of course, we can go through and examine each user one by one, or each profile one by one, but that defeats the purpose of having a Data Browser with search functions, and is impossible to do for large numbers of accounts and profiles.

I imagine that there is no inherent reason why the data browser could not be set up to search both users and profiles at the same time.

At present, there does not seem to be any way to control what the data browser searches for, and to search for users with more than one profile, or profiles controlled by more than one user.

When updating my account details, as regular user, I am forced to reset my password

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I am a site owner testing what happens when logged in as a regular user, looking at my account settings.

When updating my user account details, while already logged in as regular user, I am forced to enter my password twice, and then the system tells me that to continue, I must use my new password. But I did not want to create a new password in the first place. I was already logged in, and just wanted to update a detail in my account data!

Is there any way to avoid forcing members to renew their passwords unnecessarily?
updated by @researchcooperative: 06/18/17 01:38:46PM

Data Browser functions

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The Data Browser in the admin dashboard has strangely limited search functions.

Across the top of the data table we can see column labels for Profile Name, User Name, and Email.

1. A search on a profile name will reveal all profiles that carry the name alone or as part of a longer name. This is good.

2. A search on a profile name may or may not display a user name and profile name alongside. Why is this? Why not show the user name and profile name for every profile found? This would be more useful.

3. A search on a user name will only give a result if that user name is part of a profile name.

It seems we cannot search on usernames directly. If a user does not apply the user name in a profile, no profile will be revealed. So we cannot find the profiles belonging to a particular user. Why not make this possible as a default set up?

4. A search on an email address will give results, but not all results possible for a given email address. If an email address is associated with more than one profile, this is not shown.

5. It seems that any search term will be directed to multiple fields (all fields?) within a profile, not just the profile name. I cannot see where to control which fields will be searched.

In sum, it is not clear to me how the data browser can be used to:

(a) to find all the profiles that belong to a particular user or user's email address, or
(b) identity the all the owners (user account) of any profile.

Am I trying to use the wrong tool for (a) and (b)?

If so, what is the main purpose of the Data Browser?

In Documentation, I searched for "Data Browser", and the only item that came up was an article about a new module called "Profile Exclude". To exclude profiles from showing in ordinary member search results, we need to find the profile ID, and this can be found by plugging the profile name into the Data Browser search panel.

If I wanted to exclude all the profiles of a particular user, and did not know what those profiles are called, how would I find the profile names?

updated by @researchcooperative: 05/29/17 01:11:41AM

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(and thanks, by the way, despite the above)