Forum Activity for @researchcooperative

Contact Form Spam

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@black-eagle ... Thanks! Let's consider after further discussion.

@brian

In the process of developing a module like this, would it be feasible, desirable and cost-effective to make it compatible with more than one kind of spam-detecting service?

I can imagine situations where one service might be ideal for screening certain kinds of spam, and another service might be ideal for screening other kinds of spam.

Could a "Contact Form Spam-Interception" module be designed from the start to accommodate a range of interception services (perhaps two or three at most?). Or would this be technically not possible, or expensive, or not really needed or useful?

Contact Form Spam

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@brian

Thanks...

There may be other providers of similar services. Does anyone have any recommendations?

Depending on the price, I might eventually be able to sponsor a module for this. In principle, I would be happy to.

However, I have some other spending priorities for my site, so letting the discussion continue here is the best next step, from my point of view.

Is it possible for new applicants to complete a profile form before their account has been approved?

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@Paul

Another issue that occurs to me concerns sites created by Ning to JR transition.

I have previous sent out an announcement to all members in which a new password is automatically provided for when the first login to their account in the new site.

Many members did not respond the first two times this was sent. I am waiting until further site improvements are made before I send out another announcement like this. The message will only go to those who have not already logged in to renew their account.

If we implement the "Profile Completion" module proposed here, will there be any conflict or confusion with operation of the announcement email aimed at bringing early members back to the site?

Does it make sense for them to be led to their new Profile forms before reviewing their main Account pages?

If there is a conflict, then a simple solution may be to temporarily deactivate the new module when sending out the Ning to JR announcement message.
updated by @researchcooperative: 05/30/17 07:15:29AM

Group Email - no automatic mention of group?

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@paul

This is a little off-topic for the present thread, but when html links for pages inside a network are included in emails sent to outside the network, I imagine that the links ...

(A) need to be full links of the type: https://Yoursite/whatever/whatever page

not simply (B): /whatever/whatever page

Or does a JR site automatically append the site prefix to internal links when emails are sent out, into the wild?
updated by @researchcooperative: 05/30/17 07:00:24AM

Is it possible for new applicants to complete a profile form before their account has been approved?

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Dear Paul,

Thanks very much. This sounds good. Perhaps we can have a little more discussion here about the specifications, before making a final request/quote. Any thoughts by other JR network owners would be welcome.

1. My first thought is that it might be polite to help a returning user skip the profile update page and continue on to a specific page in the site, without logging in, if they are not ready to update their own profile.

Perhaps with a button labeled something like:

Skip login and see Co-op Services (button redirects to the Services forum)

Skip login and see Co-op Profiles (button redirects to the main Profiles index page)

2. There may be a need for an extra help note or explanation text box to make what is happening very clear to the returning registered user. It might be a message something like:

Thank you for joining [your site name]! Basic details need to be completed for your public Profile page so that you can use all functions of the site (post messages, reply to messages, use your blog page, send private messages, etc.).
updated by @researchcooperative: 05/29/17 08:20:25PM

Contact Form Spam

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I recently bravely opened a new contact form and, hey presto, the global spamsters are onto it! Within just a few hours.

Now I found a spam blocking service that offers APIs for sites facing exactly this situation, making use of their in house library of verified spam IP addresses.

The API does a check before showing the user the contact form. If the IP address is on the list, no contact.

Seems like a good idea. Manually adding IP addresses with the Banned Item tool is not going to be possible.

Does JR already have a pre-screening system available for known spam IP addresses?

The site I am looking at is:

cleantalk.org/

Is it possible to set this up, already, or does someone have to customise something so that this can work with JR sites?

Is it possible for new applicants to complete a profile form before their account has been approved?

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Hi... Thanks very much.

This sounds like an excellent idea to me. Can I ask someone to build this for me, and for JR, at my cost?

It is possible to automatically direct all users to their profile screen, but (a) if they have already done their stuff, it would be better for them to be directed to a different area of the site (in my case), and (b) the present setup allows them to move on without actually doing anything with their profile; after login they are free to go anywhere.

As far as my network is concerned, a member who has provided no public information is like someone who keeps their door shut all the time in a university corridor. I know there are smart people lurking behind the doors of my network, but nobody can know what they are here for, if they don't put up more than a nameplate (username) on the door.

I don't blame the people who have joined though. It's not easy for them to be enthusiastic about hunting around the menus and subtabs of a newly found site in order to find a profile page and fill in profile details. Most members might be glad if they can be (politely, gently) taken by the hand and led through the process without having to think too much about it.

The trick will be to make the process as understandable, smooth and painless as possible.
updated by @researchcooperative: 05/28/17 05:02:53AM

Is it possible for new applicants to complete a profile form before their account has been approved?

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If we did this, then I suppose Admin would need to manually move each member into an open, public quota to make the profiles visible, as an approval action.

Hmmm... seems like hard work. The current, built in approval system works well.

Building the public profile fields into the Account signup form subverts the in house search system, which targets the profile form data (as I found in previous discussions).

I don't think there is a problem with the basic separation of profile and account data fields. I just wanted to double-check whether or not users can access both immediately at the time of first application.

I was hoping for a magic setting somewhere that I have not seen! A one-form/two-form signup switch.

Thanks
updated by @researchcooperative: 05/27/17 06:07:35AM

Is it possible for new applicants to complete a profile form before their account has been approved?

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Most of my new members do not bother to complete (aka update) their profile form after they have been accepted for membership.

Is it possible for new applicants to complete a profile form before their account has been approved? What settings can be used by Admin to make this possible?

I think most people join in a moment of interest, and then lose interest when the approval process takes more than a few moments, which is usual, since approving new members is not my full-time occupation.
updated by @researchcooperative: 11/05/17 03:36:33AM

How to leave? (How to delete, or how to remove, own account?)

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Thanks. Using the forums module I created a simple custom form with the restriction that it can be viewed (and used) by logged in users only.

See ACP>Forms>Simple Custom Forms

After creating the form, I found its URL and then went to

ACP>Core>System Core>Tools>User Menu Editor

and inserted the form URL there.

In the user dropdown menu, the form is identifed as "Close my account", and in the text box explaining how to use the form, I have set out three options for leaving, based on our discussion above:

"Your account can be closed in three ways. Please tell us which option you prefer (O1, O2 or O3).

There is no need to tell us why you wish to leave, but we would be grateful if you do tell us.

Option 1 - Please move my account to a closed account archive where none of the details can be seen except by Admin. (The account can be renewed at any time with a further request to Admin).

Option 2 - [Your site name] can keep all posted content if It is wanted, but please remove all my personal details (username, email address, personal profile details) from the account. (The account will be given a number label and will be managed by [Your site name]).

Option 3 - Please delete all records of my account including all posted messages and attached replies, profile details, and other content. (After deletion, nothing can be recovered)."

I will call this thread solved, but hope that Strumelia's suggestions regarding the existing "delete profile" button can be considered.

The coding would be tricky I presume, but there is probably a whole raft of ways that leaving options could be (a) integrated with how user accounts are set up in quotas, and (b) configured under the labels of "delete profile" and "delete account".

Thanks