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Installation and Configuration
fwiw.. my 230 soundcloud clips from various site members all seem to be still working too.
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Installation and Configuration
fwiw.. my 230 soundcloud clips from various site members all seem to be still working too.
Helping my members see their 'pending' Followers
Using Jamroom
Understood Michael. And I so appreciate your patience.
I'm going to take another day or two while I get more feedback from my moderator group, then I'll get back here with a final (I promise!) plan. So far, they are not saying what I expected them to say, so their input may be very helpful in my deciding what path to take on all this.
Helping my members see their 'pending' Followers
Using Jamroom
Michael, I do see what you are saying about the fact that the 'follow back' connection only actually happens when the 'approve new followers' setting is ON. In other words, when a person actually clicks that Approve button, the follow back happens.
I have just now solicited thoughts from my six site Moderators (profile admins) asking how they might like the Follow/Friend system to actually function. I think once I get their thoughts i will be finally clear on what choices I need to make about this system's settings and tools and how I'd like it to function for our site. It's important because 1) it governs the private message system which is very important to my site and 2) my members continue to have big problems understanding how 'follows' work ever since we moved to Jamroom.
Again, thank you for hanging in there on this- I know it must be frustrating for you at this point.
updated by @strumelia: 02/26/18 07:46:55AM
Comet Chat vestiges
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Yes, that was from before there was a JR cometchat module and my Premium version was installed directly.
Thank you Paul, that worked great and now those tables don't show up in the integrity chack I did afterwards. Yay!
It's scary in there in DatabaseAdminLand! =8-0
Comet Chat vestiges
Using Jamroom
Before Jamroom offered their own version of Chat "SimpleChat", (which my members and I all love, and which is FREE to us on Jamroom hosting)... I used to use Comet Chat on my Jamroom site.
As soon as JR's chat came along, I switched over to it and am totally happy with it. I deactivated my CC module at the time but left it in place in my ACP basically because i was afraid it might have some template setting that could screw up my Simplechat if removed.
I got brave last week and just deleted the whole CC module via my ACP 'delete module' command.
Yet I continue to see many many Comet Chat files flying by when I run Integrity checks.
My Amazon S3 bucket has recently gone from a monthly bill of around $1.50 ....first to $3.50, and now suddenly to $12. ! But that may be for another thread. Meanwhile, partly for that reason I tried to track down where those remnant CC files were on my server in order to rid myself of CC once and for all.
A couple days ago I connected via FTP to my server and ran a search for anything with either comet or cometchat in the file name. I found a bunch of stuff in my data/media/1/0 folder.... stuff like "201802250910:cometchat_chatroommessages:99CaEwC9C6GG.sql.gz" and I deleted dozens of such files with "cometchat" somewhere in the file name. Now they appear to be back again, and I just now deleted the same 133 duplicated/backup files AGAIN. I don't know how they reappeared, but they are sets of duplicates that look to have been backed up. I continue seeing lots of "optimizing table" and "repairing table" cometchat files when doing integrity checks.
Where/how can I finally delete all these annoying CC remnant and vestige files?
Please see the below screenshots of both my Integrity checks and also my Amazon S3 bucket....
updated by @strumelia: 05/27/18 01:17:00PM
Helping my members see their 'pending' Followers
Using Jamroom
Michael, a couple weeks ago I applied the newest version of the Followers to Friends module on my (non-active) pennywhistle site, to test it and to test the new Tool. That's when i noticed the 'auto-followback' seemed to not be working, and i wasn't sure just how long that had been going on- could have been over a year for all I know.
HOWEVER, I have still not applied that newest version to my FOTMD dulcimer site, so i could compare. The FOTMD site still has the previous version of FollowersToFriends on it- 1.0.4 ...the follow-back does not appear to be working there either. I've been going on assumptions for two years, thinking all this was doing its thing smoothly. I hadn't tested it thoroughly nor thought it all out thoroughly, and I apologize for that. One setting has conflicted with other settings and has created a dilemma of sorts... I can see that now.
As you know, I recently tried to make my members more aware of any pending followers by putting a new LINK in their user dropdown menu which appears when they hover over their name when logged in. That link also shows the number after it of how many are pending, or zero, and takes them to their pending followers page where they can take action.
See the below SCREENSHOT of a ning network- a Pending Friends link appears on every single page in the right side user's info column when a member is logged in- you cannot remove that column. NOT having that wasted space "user menu column" in JR is great, and I definitely would NOT want it back like it is forced on ning. BUT, the one good thing about it was that members were definitely made more aware of the fact that they had pending Friends. Now that I have put a link in the member's dropdown menu though, it perhaps brings back the option of maybe removing the FollowersToFriends module altogether...? and just use the tool to set everyone back to having to approve their new followers? I'm thinking out loud here and am still not sure what to do, other than try to make it more ninglike so that once you click Approve on a follower(friend), you are automatically both friends of each other and can exchange PMs. But Friends do remain pending and require approval on ning as well.
Michael, I just now dug back using the search tool to find the thread from 2 years ago when Elise sponsored the creation of the Friend module for JR:
https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/forum/jamroom-developers/43205/creating-a-module-to-change-from-the-follow-model-to-the-friend-model#last
I just read that whole thread again, and I can see how I had many of the same confusions back then that i have now. (d'OH!)
If the individual member has the option of turning OFF their need to approve new followers, OR if I set new members to by default not need to approve new followers, OR if I use the new tool to set all profiles to not need to approve new followers.....then the auto follow-back will not work for those members affected.... right?
updated by @strumelia: 02/25/18 01:33:18PM
Helping my members see their 'pending' Followers
Using Jamroom
Michael,
The way I'm understanding it, the 'Followers to Friends' module was created specifically to ADD TO the normal Followers module, in order to further speed up the process of creating a complete two way connection, enabling PMs faster.
See this thread from 2 years ago:
https://www.jamroom.net/the-jamroom-network/forum/using-jamroom/46016/followers-and-followers-to-friends#last
In it, you quoted this:
"Followers to Friends sets up the Jamroom Followers system to make it work more like a "Friends" system by automatically "following back" a profile when a user follows a new profile."
On Ning, the Friends system works this way:
Jane clicks the "add as Friend" button on Bob's profile page. (she's now a pending friend). Bob receives a notification that Jane wants to be his friend. If he has notifications OFF, then he still will see a "Pending Friends" with a number after it in his very visible user menu on the side of every page on Ning (not hidden in a tab area which is easy to not see). Anyway, once Bob becomes aware of pending friend Jane, he clicks to Approve, and instantly there is a two way 'follow' or friend connection, and they are instantly able to exchange PMs. Bob does not have to 'friend' or follow' Jane back nor click any "Add to friends" button on her page.
BTW, if Bob doesn't like jane and doesn't want to be friends with her, he can simply either ignore and leave her friendship 'pending', or click Delete to remove her from his pending list of firends. She will not be notified that he deleted her- she'll simply not hear anything back and can re-click Add as Friend on Bob's page at any time again if she wants to try again. If she becomes a pest, Bob can always 'block' her. ;D
My problem is that I'm not seeing the reciprocal follow happening despite having my Friends to Followers activated to do so.
updated by @strumelia: 02/25/18 09:53:56AM
Spam Spam Spam Spam!
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My two cents: Add two or three sign up questions that might require a spammer to look up something online to answer... but that legit members might know and answer pretty easily. Then set it so new members need to be approved by you (admin). It only takes me a minute or two per day to look over and approve pending members. You'll see their answers to your questions before they get approved/activated.
Helping my members see their 'pending' Followers
Using Jamroom
I thought 'following back' was the whole purpose of the module, because this module was meant to facilitate/simplify on top of the regular Follower module. But as I said, I'm not seeing that it actually is doing that. I suspect I just haven't been paying enough attention to it, and thus didn't notice that it wasn't doing what I thought it was doing.
